Posts by prologos

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My Explanation of God.

by LAWHFol in

i am a theist & this is my version of god.. instead of using the term god, i'll use "unseen presence".. this unseen presence, is perfect in every way.

this presence is so perfect it can seem a bit boring.this perfection can be seen in the laws of science, for example gravity.. it does not sometimes work, depending on the mood of some one in the sky, it always works, perfectly.

gravity does not get angry and decide to stop working, and cause the death of innumerable living beings, it just works, through thick or thin, it is reliable.. what allows this unseen presence to remain perfect, is the fact that it does not act based on emotion, or strategy or regret.. it acts based on law, mathematical law.. this unseen presence is not partial to jews or muslims or jw's it is completely impartial at all times, to everything that exists.

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LAWHol. That which propelled the Big Bang, and that which proceeds the eventual collapse of the Universe. current understanding is, that this universe is not collapsing but expanding at an accelerating pace due to the additional dark energy in the vacuum, that is the property of the "nothing" which preceded the big bang beginning.

whether a personality is behind the use of energy and directing the formulation of the laws we have here? does it matter? let us enjoy the works we have to use here. and it is not amiss to say "thank you"

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My Explanation of God.

by LAWHFol in

i am a theist & this is my version of god.. instead of using the term god, i'll use "unseen presence".. this unseen presence, is perfect in every way.

this presence is so perfect it can seem a bit boring.this perfection can be seen in the laws of science, for example gravity.. it does not sometimes work, depending on the mood of some one in the sky, it always works, perfectly.

gravity does not get angry and decide to stop working, and cause the death of innumerable living beings, it just works, through thick or thin, it is reliable.. what allows this unseen presence to remain perfect, is the fact that it does not act based on emotion, or strategy or regret.. it acts based on law, mathematical law.. this unseen presence is not partial to jews or muslims or jw's it is completely impartial at all times, to everything that exists.

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"Unseen Presence". that term indicates "inside" the univers(es). how about the deist version: before & outside our present presence.

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We were shown how to google jw-org last night

by StarTrekAngel in

so last night i went to the meeting with my family.

had not gone in 2 weeks.

as usual i sat down reading the bible.

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the last part of the meeting talked about using audio files from the website in ministry or even at home. Elder who prepared the part dedicated 10 ---" ; STA

dedicated 10 minutes to show how to fumble with the pad he had in his hand. In the audience were a healthy minority of 9-40 year olds that could have shown how it is really done with aplomb and grace. So it was boring for half and hilarious for the other. On second thought, possibly the part was assigned by the uebers to keep this ambitious man down.

A throwback to the phonograph era.

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This week is water weak in watch tower land

by prologos in

tuesday, midweek.

: imitation faith book "study".

noah's ark floating above mt.

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last night's meeting finished the imitation faith of No ah. questioning experts: How many species or kinds would be surviving with only one male and one female left in the wild, with predation now suddenly rampant ? Even Noah's family trying to hunt down the 5 clean ones to sacrifice and eat? thimk!

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Does this fact in it`s own right , prove the Garden Of Eden story false to be no more than a fable ?

by smiddy in

thinking about life in general reflecting on the abundance of life on this planet , it became obvious to me that every living thing , those flying in the heavens ,living on the earth , or existing in the oceans , is all possible for one reason , and one reason only.. every living thing exists at the expense of the death of some other living thing , life and death go hand in hand.. the same is true even in the microscopic world .. every living thing feeds off some other unfortunate living thing.that`s nature at its most basic observation , but true.. what the noachian flood story overlooks is the vast amount of living marine life that existed and flourished and not influenced or affected by what supposedly went on , on land.. 99.9 % of all living creatures if not 100% live by the death of some other living creature and the same would have to be true in the garden of eden if it was to have existed in the first place .. no thing can live if it does not devour some other living thing .

a fact of life .. apologists are welcome to support god , by suggesting miraculous interventions by god that have no scriptual basis.

i guess any nature video of the animal kingdom , marine life in the oceans , or videos of the bird life , as in nature series should make this clear .. smiddy.

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In the narrative, The G.O.D .figure is the only carnivore, even bringing 5 extra, additional clean mammals into the ark to be killed later to sate his appetite. functioned fairly well indeed. added:

In the real world, predation has to happen to keep nature in balance. its messy, but you can not just have carrion eaters, individuals just refuse to die if given the choice. how about you and me?

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Religion spoils the real truth? What are your thoughts.

by punkofnice in

i can see how science is answering our questions.

okay, that's a sweeping statement, but it's the best way my empty head can express it.

i'm not sure if we're evolving as a species...that's another subject i admit to not reading about.

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Real truth? These events, in the world in the headlines are driven by young people, the king of Jordan called it the result of a generation gap. Can another dark age come because of this conflict? Curiosity outlawed because of gaming being taken into the streets? perhaps the hope for science to flourish is in more regimented surroundings? many questions in your OP.

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Does this fact in it`s own right , prove the Garden Of Eden story false to be no more than a fable ?

by smiddy in

thinking about life in general reflecting on the abundance of life on this planet , it became obvious to me that every living thing , those flying in the heavens ,living on the earth , or existing in the oceans , is all possible for one reason , and one reason only.. every living thing exists at the expense of the death of some other living thing , life and death go hand in hand.. the same is true even in the microscopic world .. every living thing feeds off some other unfortunate living thing.that`s nature at its most basic observation , but true.. what the noachian flood story overlooks is the vast amount of living marine life that existed and flourished and not influenced or affected by what supposedly went on , on land.. 99.9 % of all living creatures if not 100% live by the death of some other living creature and the same would have to be true in the garden of eden if it was to have existed in the first place .. no thing can live if it does not devour some other living thing .

a fact of life .. apologists are welcome to support god , by suggesting miraculous interventions by god that have no scriptual basis.

i guess any nature video of the animal kingdom , marine life in the oceans , or videos of the bird life , as in nature series should make this clear .. smiddy.

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Eden seem to have been pictured as an enclosure, with gates. Is it conceivable that animal carcasses could be degraded by vegetation, mushrooms? Is there even a record of animals in the garden apart from one snake? and it was eating not eggs, rodents but dust? That brings into focus all the meat was perhaps burned, like by Abel on the Altar or just buried before the flies could lay their eggs on ti? decay, turned directly into hey?

Hiring competent writers was not the strong point of the supposed G.O.D.

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Too Much Discontent in the Congregation Part 3

by Simon Templar in

now, 80-85 years later, we are still here.

if i was to do the counsel with a brother who had this much experience, i would have just thanked him for doing the talk, and marked him good on the point.

this is a good way to get money though.

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not all the elderly are depressed, nor even feel like victims, some are empowered, what can wt do to them? they hold all the cards $$$$$

One cheerful and lucid 100+ old sister loudly greeted all visitors from the hall with; "have they announced a new date for Armageddon yet? the stalwarts in the ward had to grin and bear it.

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Liquidation sale of RBC assets

by Darkknight757 in

got this very interesting email last night and i thought i'd share it.. this is from the local rbc.. "in harmony with our new ldc form we have been asked by the branch to liquidate all current assets of used tools and materials once owned by the rbc.

you are invited to visit the equipment trailers to acquire items being liquidated by the rbc asset team, these items will be offered on a first come bases with voluntary donation.

if you see any item you like please be in position to take it with you at that time, after you return to your congregation then you will make a donation of cash or check in the congregation contribution box designated for the support of the worldwide work.

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next time, bring your own tools, if you cut your finger, or ear( remember peter) it is not our equipments fault.

If you don't have your own tools, you are probably not proficient anyway. and if you still work for free, there might be something wrong with you, and you are a danger to others.

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What is the org’s view on extraterrestrial life?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i am sure that it has been discussed before.

but just out of curiosity, what is the orgs view on extraterrestrial life?

the org certainly agrees that the universe is infinitely large.

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There was an obscure reference once in the awake, 60s,70s, that said that "We are not mandated yet to colonize other worlds" so rather alien life already there it was the private opinion of that writer (it looked like he snug that tidbit in) , rather than extraterrestrials already being there, we would go there to make it so. perhaps by an extra-terrest-trial resurrection.

How many stars, planets have already died, whose light has not arrived yet?