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  The Military Failure of the United States of America. Why?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. current

  the usa is undoubtedly the strongest military power in the world, and has often been willing to use that power against other nations, some historians count 187 foreign wars in 200 years, and this youtube video lists the wars the us has fought in the twentieth century, most of which, (in the earliest part of the 20th c) it can be argued, were won by the usa.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q51nfakme-g. this is not an argument about the rightness or wrongness of any war.

  the argument is why the mightiest ever military power, a political power that controls overwhelming destructive forces, a power that claims to stand on the side of its god, does not win wars?

  have you thought about this question?

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  prologos

  Another problem is that the US military is geared up to fight Russia or China

  good luck with that. remember Corea
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  Elders who dislike other congregation elders

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my congregation had four elders who had different personalities.you would see a little friction among themselves.. #1 self-righteous and the 800 pound gorilla.he would push everyone around in the congregation and even some fellow elders.. # 2 elder was around 80 years old and looked like he stuck around a little too long.it looked like he was around because he never decided to give up the position.his duty became very light as he aged.. # 3 elder was in his early 30's and newly elected.he made no waves and whatever was asked of him in the congregation he would do.easy to push around like a little puppy dog.. #4 elder (who everyone liked ) was easy to get along with and had a family who everyone loved.

  he didn't like elder # 1. they had a power struggle amongst each other which everyone observed while the meetings were in session.. here are 2 small verbal fights that i observed while the congregation meetings were in session:.

  while elder # 1 was giving a talk ( heavy rain storms are brewing outside with loud thunder and lightning ) the microphones and lights are knocked out.we lost all power and could barely see.

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  Revolving position was based on the Governing body in Acts (circumcision / blood) procedure, where at one point Peter, and later James seem to be presiding so, in the 60s- 70- there was a time after the new "elder" arrangement was introduced, where all "positions".- Presiding overseer, Field service overseer, the school, bible studies, secretary, even book study conductors were rotated in and out of work areas, in sequence. A great experience showing latent talent. It really irked the controlling, bloated egos. With many congregations thriving.
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  The "faithful and discreet slave class" - Past, Present and Future

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  iv) believe that jesus christ is mediator for "the faithful and discreet slave".

  today, that "slave" is represented by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  5. elders.

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  The greatest losers in the switch from the faithful & slave Class to the Brooklyn 7 only FDS are : the ladies. No more females in that club. anointed sisters might in the future run the universe, judge angels, but can not be part of the F&DS. Merkel ( Time's person of the year) mark that.
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  Elders who dislike other congregation elders

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my congregation had four elders who had different personalities.you would see a little friction among themselves.. #1 self-righteous and the 800 pound gorilla.he would push everyone around in the congregation and even some fellow elders.. # 2 elder was around 80 years old and looked like he stuck around a little too long.it looked like he was around because he never decided to give up the position.his duty became very light as he aged.. # 3 elder was in his early 30's and newly elected.he made no waves and whatever was asked of him in the congregation he would do.easy to push around like a little puppy dog.. #4 elder (who everyone liked ) was easy to get along with and had a family who everyone loved.

  he didn't like elder # 1. they had a power struggle amongst each other which everyone observed while the meetings were in session.. here are 2 small verbal fights that i observed while the congregation meetings were in session:.

  while elder # 1 was giving a talk ( heavy rain storms are brewing outside with loud thunder and lightning ) the microphones and lights are knocked out.we lost all power and could barely see.

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  Pete Zahut

  long ago had become a revolving position. AH, the revolving position, a breath of fresh air. The Dominators hated that so much. from presiding overseer to school servant. The time of the big increases. Part of my assignments as special pioneer was to neutralize super egos and bring sanity back to dysfunctional, gridlocked congregations. Underwhelm them with power from above (the branch).
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  Elders who dislike other congregation elders

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my congregation had four elders who had different personalities.you would see a little friction among themselves.. #1 self-righteous and the 800 pound gorilla.he would push everyone around in the congregation and even some fellow elders.. # 2 elder was around 80 years old and looked like he stuck around a little too long.it looked like he was around because he never decided to give up the position.his duty became very light as he aged.. # 3 elder was in his early 30's and newly elected.he made no waves and whatever was asked of him in the congregation he would do.easy to push around like a little puppy dog.. #4 elder (who everyone liked ) was easy to get along with and had a family who everyone loved.

  he didn't like elder # 1. they had a power struggle amongst each other which everyone observed while the meetings were in session.. here are 2 small verbal fights that i observed while the congregation meetings were in session:.

  while elder # 1 was giving a talk ( heavy rain storms are brewing outside with loud thunder and lightning ) the microphones and lights are knocked out.we lost all power and could barely see.

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  it is inevitable that the froth rises to the top and the fat.
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  Finally heard a Dub defend overlapping generations

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since the overlapping generations doctrine was introduced, i have found the jws i know to be uncharacteristically silent on the subject.

  i can't remember hearing a single dub try to defend this idiocy.

  but that all ended recently.

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  "the example of Freddy Franz being overlapped was just what she needed to clear up her understanding. In her words, it now "all makes perfect sense". so: -- does she realize, that Frederic Franz being overlapped by a similar anointed will push back Armageddon into the 2070s, 2075 possibly?

  FF died 1992 , 78 years from 1914, 1992+78= 2070, rapture and Armageddon later.
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  John-1-1-Colossians-1-16-all-other-things - Part 2

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  continued from part 1 (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5097191899136000/john-1-1-colossians-1-16-all-other-things):.

  the nw translation and some of its unique renderings, like john 1.1- "a god," and colossians 1.16 - "all other things," have been consistently at the top of the most debated topics here in this forum and elsewhere from the beginning.

  the anger felt by detractors of the nwt rendering of john 1.1 (a god) has diminished considerably if compared to the furious debates surrounding the verse that raged on during the 1950 thru 1970s.

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  The problem with "other" is that it would classify the prehuman "jesus" as a thing, whereas to be a co-creator he would have to be a non-material entity; --spiritual, invisible, like his presence since 1914.
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  Watchtower says in Paradise we will fly like Superman and so avoid accidents???!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  golden age aug 25 1926 p.751.

  "negative gravitation.

  you may have wondered how accidents will be avoided in jesus kingdom since we are told nothing will hurt or destroy.

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  Isaiah 40:31, "--will mount up with wings like Eagles--" on hot air thermals. sucked up. Non collision murmurations of jws, , those that now murmur will not be in the flock.
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  Finally heard a Dub defend overlapping generations

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since the overlapping generations doctrine was introduced, i have found the jws i know to be uncharacteristically silent on the subject.

  i can't remember hearing a single dub try to defend this idiocy.

  but that all ended recently.

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  the sister could not possibly have understood it. Even the wording. There are not two generations overlapping, but 2 groups in one generation. (wt double talk). Then, wt also teaches that the generation WILL pass away, not like"jesus" said will NOT*** pass away.

  ***wt teaches that the anointed will be all gone from the Earth before he destruction. "jesus" said they would survive, (or not pass away)- and did!, - in the primary fullfillment, Jerusalem 70 CE
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  John-1-1-Colossians-1-16-all-other-things - Part 2

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  continued from part 1 (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5097191899136000/john-1-1-colossians-1-16-all-other-things):.

  the nw translation and some of its unique renderings, like john 1.1- "a god," and colossians 1.16 - "all other things," have been consistently at the top of the most debated topics here in this forum and elsewhere from the beginning.

  the anger felt by detractors of the nwt rendering of john 1.1 (a god) has diminished considerably if compared to the furious debates surrounding the verse that raged on during the 1950 thru 1970s.

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  "-Jesus now holds a position so great in the Universe, that Paul had to mention that it was through Jesus that God made everything.-"

  That " in" captured my attention, the creator would not be in, but be external, prior to the universe, whether it is relevant, is another matter.