Posts by prologos

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Can somebody explain the songs and songbook obsession?

by careful in

i've been out a while and have only put in a rare appearance at a memorial or brief visit at a convention/assembly to keep people off my back, so i haven't kept up on the songbook.

but one thing i've noticed that the org.

has been doing that they never did when i was in is all these "supplemental songs" that keep appearing.

prologos

D: So do you think it's Splane? nbd:They are working on a new songbook that will have 150 songs total (just like the Psalms)

so, it is David playing a leading role in both? Did not David play insane at one time?

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A question .....

by Landy in

hi guys - new poster here.

i was brought up a jw in the uk and stopped going not long after i was married.

that was 20 years ago so i'm not really up to date with the current doctrinal flip flops or the new youtube obsessed gb.. came across this site while googling the name of a local elder who's just been convicted of possesion of a pc full of unpleasant pics of kids.. so, my question.

prologos

Love to have you Landy, it is also fun to be the fly on the wall and see with those compound eyes (many view points, no tunnelvision) what goes on.

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November Study WT "Train You Child to Love Going Door 2 Door"

by JW_Rogue in

been catching up on some jw reading and found a gem in the november study wt in the first article, paragraph #11:.

yet, you might look beyond the obvious and ask yourself, does my child enjoy the ministry or only the breaks?

if you discern that the ministry could be more interesting or more rewarding for your children, set goals with them.

prologos

kid in the picture is saying : "yeah, dad owes me, I am going to get that bike!" dad: "Yeah, they can't refuse now to make me an elder".

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Has anyone read this 'SCHOLARLY' book? THIRTY YEARS AS JEHOVAH'S SLAVE

by sparky1 in

if anyone here is considering going back to becoming one of jehovah's witnesses, than this testimonial may help you make your way back.

lots of gems contained in this book that will build your faith immensely :.

how to exorcize demons from your son, while he is having a drug flashback, after having encountered one of the 144,000.- pg.

prologos

another goose stepping book like "Faith on the March"? and: what is it with all the Teutonic names, Schnell, Neumann, Knorr, Franz ?

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Today's watchtower: obey us, no matter what

by Tornintwo in

today's watchtower:.

obey us, obey us even when it seems strange, obeying our man made hierarchy equates to obeying god, sacrifice your own interests, work for us, don't be independent, put your own interests aside, obey some more, preach for us, build for us, enjoy it, obey some more, forgive when we are jerks to you and mistreat you, accept your changed assignment even if it seems cruel and doesn't make sense, don't complain if we move you (eg.

) because you might have to move in the new world, remember you are being trained to obey, remember to put your own interests aside, that's the way we are designed to live - it will only make you happy!

prologos

Finkelstein: Too bad Jesus didn't include to watch out for those who might sell and commercialize the Gospel.

Well, you better have have watched out, - as the tables were flying and the animals stampeded when "jesus" cleansed the temple in his story, and how about Paul: " we are not Peddlers or [colporteurs] of The Word"?

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Watchtower says in Paradise we will fly like Superman and so avoid accidents???!!

by Witness 007 in

golden age aug 25 1926 p.751.

"negative gravitation.

you may have wondered how accidents will be avoided in jesus kingdom since we are told nothing will hurt or destroy.

prologos

Canadian hoverboard actually works! This is paradise, told ya! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

The best way to make them fly is to take them when you are "leaving on a jet plane" but airlines have banned them. As the PO stated the challenge is always the landing or any other type of contact you make when flight ends.

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Can somebody explain the songs and songbook obsession?

by careful in

i've been out a while and have only put in a rare appearance at a memorial or brief visit at a convention/assembly to keep people off my back, so i haven't kept up on the songbook.

but one thing i've noticed that the org.

has been doing that they never did when i was in is all these "supplemental songs" that keep appearing.

prologos

prologos, doesn't the WTS admin select every song for the meetings and conventions except the public talk.

Perhaps even what should be played as a background at meetings and conventions, and these choices are not bad, as elevator music goes, but I hope they never choose the newest crop or crap? I will be gone by then, perhaps.

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Can somebody explain the songs and songbook obsession?

by careful in

i've been out a while and have only put in a rare appearance at a memorial or brief visit at a convention/assembly to keep people off my back, so i haven't kept up on the songbook.

but one thing i've noticed that the org.

has been doing that they never did when i was in is all these "supplemental songs" that keep appearing.

prologos

Do they rotate out the songs that are not too popular or easy to sing? good question, if that were the case, we would have a good songbook evolving, instead, some of the oldies but goodies keep disappearing. I suspect that the same dynamics as in the " contrary elders dislike elders" thread are at work in the music department instead.

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John-1-1-Colossians-1-16-all-other-things - Part 2

by Wonderment in

continued from part 1 (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5097191899136000/john-1-1-colossians-1-16-all-other-things):.

the nw translation and some of its unique renderings, like john 1.1- "a god," and colossians 1.16 - "all other things," have been consistently at the top of the most debated topics here in this forum and elsewhere from the beginning.

the anger felt by detractors of the nwt rendering of john 1.1 (a god) has diminished considerably if compared to the furious debates surrounding the verse that raged on during the 1950 thru 1970s.

prologos

jw-verite: "--Concerning the "first born of all creation", the greek word "arche" does not necessarily imply a creation but is related to the position of superiority or "leadership" of Jesus over the creation.

Verse 18 tends to confirm this by saying : "And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy." (NIV)--"

The context shows that "jesus" is considered "among", or part of the creation. veritablement. as if that mattered.

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Can somebody explain the songs and songbook obsession?

by careful in

i've been out a while and have only put in a rare appearance at a memorial or brief visit at a convention/assembly to keep people off my back, so i haven't kept up on the songbook.

but one thing i've noticed that the org.

has been doing that they never did when i was in is all these "supplemental songs" that keep appearing.

prologos

ToesUp could be right; it is one GB member acting out his fantasies to be a world class composer/arranger, with the assistance of more talented music GB helper specialists. Some of these new compositions are really ugly, whereas a few of the ones still on paper are melodious and hummable. Sad part is, that these works are a reflection of the disturbing personalities behind them.