Posts by prologos

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Watchtower 1973 - "Dinosuars WERE on Noah's Ark"!!! College educated response??

by Witness 007 in

witnesses hate college education, and why would you need one when you have our "spiritual food" the watchtower answering science questions.. watchtower 1973 july 15 p.7 questions from readers.. "when did dinosaurs go extinct?

-they may have disappeared during the flood of noahs day.

not all of them were of gigantic size.

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Interesting is it not that the Almighty creator who existed all throughout time made his creations on a designated set time scale.

Good point Finkelstein, to be fair, while the creator (if any) must predate the universe, not moving through time, by necessity, creation has to happen in steps that can be identified;-- cosmologist / astrophysisists: the inflationary period, the overlapping generations of stars, novae, supernovae to give us calcium, gold; - Paleontologists, the Cambrian--. The ancient writers just realized this must be tiring, to do it without power tools. so, give me a break, a weekend. Bible is wrong so, do not take it seriously, literally.

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Traveling Merchants

by berrygerry in

wt teaches that rev 18:11 applies to "big business" mourning the demise of false religion, as they were essentially losing their best customer(s).. the last reference to this concept that i could find is 1993 wt.

also weeping and mourning over her are greedy men of commerce, traveling merchants .

, who became rich from her.. .

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when thinking of travelling merchants, think the Caravan that bought Joseph from his brothers. The crime of Joseph?, to be a whistleblower, like many here, who, were preferably to be killed, but because of limitations were butted out into the world for exposing wt wrongdoing, wrongdoctrining.

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Theists, why does God allow suffering..

by The Quiet One in

..specifically, the suffering of animals.

you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

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To this deist, the suffering, physical or emotionally, associated with death, is not a deliberately designed feature to serve spiritual development, but the byproduct of a successful, alert nervous system that serves to protect the organism when attacked, or when in danger, including the pain-numbing terror response.

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Theists, why does God allow suffering..

by The Quiet One in

..specifically, the suffering of animals.

you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

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Cold Steel: "-- suffering is ultimately something designed to make us better." wow, what an admission, your designer god is either a monster or an incompetent, most likely you designed him?

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Why do animals suffer?

by nicolaou in

bonnie is fourteen years old now and she's still fit and active, but she sleeps (and farts) a lot more and is definitely slowing down.. she loves us in her own dumb way and always comes to the door to greet me when i get home from work.

she doesn't 'sin' but yeah, she'll steal biscuits and feel shame afterwards.

she's loyal and intelligent and i dread the day when .

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The pain and response mechanism is efficient when it helps life to succeed. When there is a malfunction, a chronic breakdown, there is constant pain, a pain that is not eliminate by the short term numbing effect of the terror response. We have misconstrued the nature of "god", the originator to demand euthanasia, a pleasant death for all.

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Encounter with J.W's at wittnessing kart.

by karter in

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friends

me-you allow pedophiles to go d2d and into peoples houses even when they have children.. j.w-no we don't.. me-the one that interfered with a relative of mine does and another i know who raped his sister does in fact he's an elder.. j.w-we cant stop them going d2d.. me- so now your saying they do go d2d you can't stop them,no you don't want to!.

j.w-it happens in all religions.. me- so that justifies sending pedo's into strangers houses.how would you like it if a pedo came to your place and you didn't know.. j.w- it happened to my mother and if he came to my place it knock him out.. me - but you have no problem with anyone from your church going to peoples houses even if they are a pedo.. we argued around in circles with him saying the elders may not know and me saying well i told them and so did the victim and he admitted to it ,then i told him about the r.c in australia and he said that could be anyone claiming to be a j.w could be on the stand ( by this time he was getting desperate)the i said like jeffery jackson?.

i told them to look it up on you tube.. i gave then the names and congro's the 2 pedo's are in and said i'd come back next week and see if they had checked it out.the lady's body language said she knew the elder that raped his sister as they are a well know family they were in the year book a few years ago.. stand by for next week.. karter.

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karter be prepare for this jw rebuttal: Our instructions are, that a known pedophile has to be accompanied by another (jw) in the ministry.

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Can't Understand Why This Is Allowed

by mariet in

i moved to roseburg, oregon.

the jehovah's witnesses are allowed to set up a display and man it right outside of the local library, and they are there every day and hour the library is open.

i am [redacted], the director of the douglas county library system and wanted to respond to your website email of december 11, 2015. i have consulted with the county attorneys office about your concern about jehovahs witnesses use of the front porch of the library building in roseburg, and my understanding of the law is as follows.. .

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It would be interesting if enough displays and g.o.d. s (Guardians Of the Display)s start crowding out the patrons.

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Attention WT Writing Department: When was Frederick Franz baptized??? Please make up your mind!!!

by Calebs Airplane in

pop quiz for the watchtower writing department.... .

when was frederick franz baptized?

april 4, 1914 or november 30, 1913?.

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and since this is an open letter to the wt writers, and their GB proofreaders, why is there uncertainty not only about FF's baptism date, but also about his generation's fate? did you not at one or two times teach that some "anointed" like Frederick Franz would survive Armageddon, to organize the start paradise?, as you should have, since Jesus said the partakers would not pass away until they saw, survived the destruction of Jerusalem and later the world? and indeed the apostles did?

Here is the question to answer please:

Why do you now contradict Jesus and teach that the overlapping generation will pass away before the destruction?

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Attention WT Writing Department: When was Frederick Franz baptized??? Please make up your mind!!!

by Calebs Airplane in

pop quiz for the watchtower writing department.... .

when was frederick franz baptized?

april 4, 1914 or november 30, 1913?.

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1913 or 1914, in that era, baptism was also the time to become an "anointed", following the Jesus, Cornelius examples,; so FF just made it to be in on the ground floor of the first group of overlapees. Used by David Splane as a timing example, an overlapper with his statistics, partaking in 1992, would bring the dual generation into the 2070ies. 2075 here we come again.

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Canada zone visit March 2016

by Richard_I in

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friends

canada's getting a zone visit in march 2016, but no mention of who's doing the visit.

praying it's anthony morris and we get our own tight pants talk.

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time-shift viewings at Assembly Halls. like Kremlin watching during the cold war; who of the upper crust has parts, sits in front at the venue. March in george town by george.