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  Field service in Germany

  by Ben131895 in

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  i left the organization 34 years ago but are still interested how the developments are.. when i stopped working 13 years ago (i am dutch) we moved to germany, just across the border since houses were 50% cheaper than in holland and the germans are a more polite people.

  we live in a little town with 20.000 people.. in holland we didn't see the witnesses too often, perhaps two times a year.. in germany (at least in my little town) i have not seen the witnesses in all these 13 years.

  they are standing in the shopping center and most of the time also at the railway station with a trolly.

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  Ben " "--the Germans are a more polite people, well, that is changing, many of the "new germans" are impolite, they do not ask ladies for permission any more.
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  The Particulars of Claim in Otuo v Morley and Watch Tower

  by akromo in

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  in the high court of justice claimno: hq14d02898 .

  queens bench division.

  1. this is a claim in slander against the first and second defendant..

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  akromo : --"not-- criminality of fraud but fraud as JW's understand it "sin of fraud". that key difference would be interesting to explore, if the details are available somewhere, never heard the "sin of--" like "looking at a woman-- has already committed [the sin of] adultery in his heart.? did OTUO just plot about fraud?
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  The Particulars of Claim in Otuo v Morley and Watch Tower

  by akromo in

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  in the high court of justice claimno: hq14d02898 .

  queens bench division.

  1. this is a claim in slander against the first and second defendant..

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  Is there any record of Mr OTUO successfully refuting the claim that fraud was committed? Proving that he has never committed fraud? par.10.
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  Generation Nonsense in today's WT

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  abraham was part of the 9th generation as a descendent of shem.

  yet, their lives overlapped by 150 years.

  yep, they were of the same generation!

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  Dk 775T: "think about this: Adam was supposed to be born about 6000 years ago and Jesus is "the last Adam" so that's at least a 6000 year generation, no that is taking it too far, the two Adams did not overlap. but:

  if Shem lived to 630! and Abraham to 175!, and they overlapped by 150, that makes these two grouped into one -- generation one of 655 years long, - deduct 5 years for the age of memories of Abraham,= 650 ; plus 1914= 2564 CE. better (for wt) than 2075 derived from 2 overlapping Freddy Franzes.
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  Thoughts

  by thinker11 in

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  as much as i want to believe in the bible and wish for a god that is watching over us and love us; i find it difficult to comprehend that a loving god will erase mankind with fireballs, earthquakes, and kill childrens, mothers, and fathers who refused to believe in the bible.

  and i can’t help but to take their side in all these.

  i mean: what has god really done to show that he is love and that he exists and is watching how we act.

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  Yeah, his sitting, laying by while all this torture goes on proves the contrary! it proves that the bible story god is not the abel universal souverain that the story tells him to be at all. hampered to help the suffering by a talking snake.
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  Fraud

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. friends

  if someone commits financial fraud, they commit a crime, and can be punished (jailed).. but if someone commits a religious fraud, western society does not see that as a crime.. on another thread, a poster pointed out that the jws, "literally steals peoples lives and causes horrendous damage.

  of course, the jws are not the only religion to practise religious fraud.

  all sorts of large and small religions make unverifiable promises and ask for financial support on the basis of their promises, which is precisely what financial defrauder does.

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  Everyone here would have been richer if religions were banned. except the religious fraudsters.
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  After 50 years Zealous Service, My Elder Friends goes Inactive

  by James Jack in

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  i asked him what happened.

  he said "him and his wife lived a full theocratic life for jehovah.

  doing everything the organization and the traveling brothers told them to do, like work part time, regular pioneer, serve where the need is great.

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  Your story, or stories, are so typical of the truly devoted , at least you are already in retirement heaven, heaven's waiting room, Florida, not in Michigan Maine or Minnesota, Manitoba.
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  Updates to Public Talk Outlines 2 & 3

  by wifibandit in

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  will you be a survivor of the last days?.

  serving with jehovah’s unified organization.

  move ahead with jehovah’s unified organization.

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  It seems like Satan and Jesus are on the same page?? 😝

  DD of course they were, in the story about the desert temptation, the leap from the temple, they were hurling scriptures at each other like competing brothers that they were. (Satan really good at quoting the bible too bsw.)
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  What does the rise of Donald Trump tell us about the USA?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  i thank one of my former lecturers for drawing my attention to this overview.. after some 100 years, living out its "manifest destiny" dream, as the hegemon of the world, what has this 'dream' done to/for the usa?

  the approaching presidential election provides an opportunity to examine this question.. and what of all the appendage organisations (like the wts) that rode across the world on the hegemon's coattails?.

  the answer may be here: http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism.

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  Simon: " Hitler hadn't killed anyone when he was making promises to be elected and wasn't promising to kill anyone (unlike Trump who seems to like the idea) I am not too sure about that, I never read Mein Krampf, written in the 20s, but did the book not spell out his racial policies, and Trumpf, did he not say he could kill and still be elected?

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  New K.Hall Design, Mansfield

  by BluesBrother in

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  2. friends

  not mansfield u k , but mansfield in u s a - it doesn't look much, does it?

  in fact even the uber dubs on j w talk are not impressed (that must be a first!

  this thread of theirs is publicly readable:.

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  j134cd"-- warehouses when we are so near the end.? because the end justifies the means.