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  Revelation 5:9,10 and the 144,000

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i hesitate to ask this question.

  during some recent research on youtube i came across a few videos explaining how watchtower manipulated revelation 5:10. revelation 5:10 "you have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our god,and they will reign on the earth.”" -niv.

  the nwt13 renders this verse: 10 and you made them to be a kingdom+ and priests to our god,+ and they are to rule as kings+ over the earth.”.

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  epy center in seismology: over, above the center. (any relevance of the use in modern languages)?

  what is is important to wt that they rule. how, where, really does not matter.
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  Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. friends

  as i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?

  why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?

  it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.

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  There are always those that believe they personally are "that generation", they will do anything, believe anything, to make hat come true. after all, this is the only generation that the living have, wt-adherents are not.
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  SCRIPTURE TO READ TO JWs

  by somebody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two jws came to my door recently.

  i asked one of them to read ecclesiastes 9:5 for me.

  i then asked them if all living jws are knowing or believing or are conscious that they will die.

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  sb: "Finkelstein, what scripture is that?

  Acts 1:7. "--The father has put time in his own jurisdiction--", even Einstein was not to sure about time. Time is the latter day forbidden fruit, you touch it at your own risk.

  Of course, Jesus was talking then to the not-yet anointed apostles, who in turn never were the Faithful & Discrete Slave, they lived before 1919, so, Jesus' words don't apply to the present 7, oracles --right?
  
  
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  The Borg and the bible, don't eat blood! Jesus, eat my blood! WTF?

  by Crazyguy in

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  your thoughts , and is in it interesting how much jesus teachings seem to contradict the jewish god jehovah.

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  The cannibalistic / human sacrifice reference in John 6 also sinks the wt interpretation of it. A partaking for all is clearly implied. Partaking will lead to everlasting life, an assured resurrection, not directly* to immortality as the wt "144 000 anointed " doctrine has it.

  * in the "revelation" book they hint, that partaking leads to everlasting life on earth, and the "anointed" have to sacrifice that aquired right to go to heaven.
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  My Issue With the Kingdom Melodies

  by humblepotato in

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  2. friends

  the organization really has some talented people in it.

  seriously talented.

  artists, musicians, animators, and any other creative venue you can think of.

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  hp:.. maybe only 5 of them are enjoyable to listen too.

  so, tune out the rest. and hum, play it on the piano at home, forget about the lie-rics.
  
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  The 1975 Generation---are they still around?

  by minimus in

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  i was raised as a jw and 1975 expectations were pretty intense.

  as i recall, most people did not leave after the failed expectations but many s l o w e d down.

  now, i think most of the 1975 witnesses are gone or barely in.. is the older generation still around in the kingdom halls or are they much gone?.

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  any long-time witness over 55 would remember it, the over 65 year olds could have been a driving force in that lemming - like lunacy. If still in, they could be of the of the "defender of the doctrine" type, feeling that "jehovah" really likes stubborn stoics, and be puzzled at the easy-going, who cares about specific doctrine new generation. If you live in a retirement area, Florida, the Pacific northwest, there would be a lot of them in the 80 to 90+ range.
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  Holy crap, Flying cars by 2018

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  flying cars just took a big step closer to being legal.

  terrafugia gets the green light for.

  transforming vehicle that could take to the skies by 2018. dui's in the skies......

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  good cars make bad airplanes and vice versa, so why have both a bad car and a really lousy plane?
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  100-million man hours

  by Coded Logic in

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  the james webb telescope is set to launch in october of 2018 and will allow us to study the formation of first generation stars, the molecular clouds that became the first galaxies, and directly image exoplanets.

  roughly one hundred times more powerful than the hubble space telescope the jwst is going to push back the current boundaries of science.. this is what 100-million man hours can accomplish.. .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8p0samsz7m.

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  works like these, money very well spent, makes you glad that the "world has not ended in 1914" That "the kings of this world did not have had their day" and That the new dark age aka " the 1000 year wt reign" did not start in 1975.

  may be looking at these pictures to come like in the COBE survey, some researcher will wax awed again and exclaim " the hand of god".
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  100-million man hours

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
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  the james webb telescope is set to launch in october of 2018 and will allow us to study the formation of first generation stars, the molecular clouds that became the first galaxies, and directly image exoplanets.

  roughly one hundred times more powerful than the hubble space telescope the jwst is going to push back the current boundaries of science.. this is what 100-million man hours can accomplish.. .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8p0samsz7m.

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  and what have the billion man/ woman/children hours of wt accomplished by comparison? preaching the end of the world soon?
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  Surfing, Nemo and Patrick Thrive in New System

  by Funchback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/end-of-the-world/.

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  TB: "What? No snorkels in the new system?

  snor-kels? not needed. being perfect, following the example of Jonah, the faithful will be able to hold their breath for > 3 1/2 days. Just don't hold your breath waiting for the NS.