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  Joseph and his generation

  by maninthemiddle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the wt used ex 1:6 to define a generation from the very beginning.

  then in the this september broadcast the same person (splain) who spent 20 min with charts to explain a generation, makes a point that joseph and his brothers were very close in age?

  (min 4:29).

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  mitm: " that they could contradict themselves so easily?

  If D.S. said that, (can't listen unless someone puts it up here), then they are hedging their bets, If all the brothers were ~ the ~same age, of course benjamin was the youngest, then WT wants to be saying it's near it's now! when they invoke the old and faithful like Br, Franz, who died in 1992 at ~ 100, and his likeness now, it will take us to 2075, in that case they are playing the long card, don't blame us, we told you so.

  hedging their bets, like in 1975 buying expensive real estate in Brooklyn cheap, when preaching that the millennium was imminent
  
  
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  The elusive song 151 makes an appearance.

  by SadElder in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the missing song 151 now titled "the revealing of god's sons" shows up with the september edition of tv.jw.

  no words or score on the jw page yet.

  can't say that it sounds any different than any of the other songs they produce now.

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  Sanchy: "-- Is this some kind of "new light" in that the 144k do indeed take part in the war?

  WT writers have vacillated over the question of combat by immortal resurrected christians, based on the text "--god will crush satan under your feet shortly --"Rom 16:20, or whether they would instead direct the initial building of the paradise as survivors of Armageddon. What is new that their charts now predict the early rapture of the overlapping anointed generation at the onset of the great Tribulation, long before the end, contradicting Jesus' word, that the generation would " not pass away until all theses things", including the end occur.

  Jesus words supported the idea that the anointed would survive, not pass away, to start pardise. after all, it is the 144 00 sons of god that are the primary inheritors of the earth too. according to wt.
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses - a religion of displaced people?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've had a theory for a long time that jws historically have appealed to people who have been displaced or find themselves in a new environment away from family and friends.

  i also read an article recently that suggested that internal migration in italy was a big boost for jw growth.

  more generally it has long been theorised that new religious movements are a phenomenon particularly associated with disruptive features of modernity, including the hyper-mobility of people in the modern age.

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  very good point slim. I would never have become religious in my birth city, where religion is a joke. That is why Jws keep calling back, because as they say: "people's situations change"--, they become vulnerable,
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  Caption Competition

  by Tallon in

  1. social
  2. humour

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  "my dear girl, there are some things that just aren't done, such as drinking dom perignon '53 above the temperature of 38 degrees fahrenheit.".

  over to you ....

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  let's water the lawn.
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  WT "Study" for 4th September 2016 - “Seek the Kingdom, Not Things”

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i’m sitting there in the kingdom hall just thinking how rich it is of the gbojw to preach about materialism when they have recently been evidenced to be using bro’s & sis’ contributions to the world wide work to travel business class!

  just that thought alone was leading me to read scripture while they were all engaged in the wt “study”.. however, then it came to paragraph 17 and i blurted / choked a little.

  the paragraph said that “we should not imitate the people of ‘the nations,’ who have no real faith in a loving heavenly father who cares for those who put the interests of his kingdom first in their life.”.

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  The end is coming, you can anticipate it for you, by looking at your families age of death, and see how many years you have left. Wt has been wrong on all predictions about the future, why would it be different this time? If you will not be comfortable when you can not work any more, give it a big spurt of earning so that you are. You deserve your golden years to be golden, not wt's, or their glorious ones'. you have slaved enough.
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  Real Estate turn over in Amqui, Québec

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so, the jehovah`s witnesses sold a kingdom hall that used to be a little too big and started to build a new one a few streets away: .

  http://www.lavantposte.ca/actualites/societe/2016/7/22/l-edifice-des-temoins-de-jehovah-prend-forme.html.

  what i find absolutely ridiculous is that they could have taken the profit of the sale of the first hall to have a contractor build the second.

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  it does not look like the flowery branch model. will flat roof lines be out above the Mason/Dixie line?
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  What are the chances of having a one on one with GB member

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  jesus drifted amongst the lowly folk .

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  it would be easier to talk to one of the wives, at an assembly where she is not known, and were just meandering in the crowd. A conversation with a GB member would be short, if you steered into a delicate subject, very short.
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  Has anyone thought about if a General strike take place by undocumented immigrants.

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this would cripple the economy, don't know about other states in the union but it would.

  be devastating for the border states.

  here in california restaurants (no workers) closed, .

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  Social Security number, 2014 541000 SSN were issued to illegal emigrants. driver licenses--

  all kinds of foreigners, landowners can get these Numbers, social security numbers but stamped. not for work. and yes you could get a driver license if you had a residence, phone bill to show, at least it limits the liability issues with properly ensured vehicles. The government should have enforced existing federal law. created a more comprehensive temporary worker program. big crunches are coming, strikes or not.
  
  
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  Do you recognize?

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gorby has had a personal paradigm shift lately.. from one point to an other i "feel" and "think" different about the jw subject.. - no more interest in doctrine.

  - no more interest in things that happen 100 years ago into an religion.. - no more taking statements too serious.

  it doesn't matter me at all what a generation doctrine change is all about, it doesn't matter me at all that brother elder said "blablabla boe!".

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  went through a process here where things that concerned me about wt, and religion period, were overturned one by one, removed from my list of things to do, , but am still interested to point out the build-in contradiction of their world view. , but I am no Gorbachev. look what he did, he used his concerns to overturn his domain, the USSR. -
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  The Sea

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the sea once held this youngster's heart within its mighty bosom.i loved and cherished the sea, stretching outward beyond infinity.

  i took to the e'er dreary landscape, the dank surroundings soothing me, enveloping me in crawling mists that were more welcomed to me than the evaporating rays of a cavorting summer sun.i, however, am no longer that pensive lad who found comfort in the dark and cold and deep blue sea.

  today, a man in the physical sense, i no longer possess that childlike fascination with my former abode.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztkUuunI7g