Posts by prologos

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Another Outright Lie Published 2/17 WT

by LostGeneration in

this info is from the article "who is leading god's people today" feb 17 study edition.. to help them disseminate bible truth in various languages, zion’s watch tower tract society was legally incorporated in 1884, with brother russell as president.

* he was an outstanding student of the bible, and he fearlessly exposed as false such doctrines as the trinity and the immortality of the soul.

he discerned that christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914.. pretty sickening article overall about how badass the gb is, though this little gem is printed as well, paragraph 12. the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

prologos

mistaken ideas such as these

The trouble is, these mistaken ideas are published as "new light", as official current doctrine, and questioning these mistakes becomes a disfellowshipping, off with you to gehenna offence. and for the wt rank & file, these ideas [like "that it would be reasonable for the beginning of the paradise millennium to coincide with the 1975 end of the 6000 years , since A&E's creation, then rest], -- all this comes supposedly from the GB, F&DS, and obedience, and on propagating these mistaken ideas their "eternal" life depends.

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Another Outright Lie Published 2/17 WT

by LostGeneration in

this info is from the article "who is leading god's people today" feb 17 study edition.. to help them disseminate bible truth in various languages, zion’s watch tower tract society was legally incorporated in 1884, with brother russell as president.

* he was an outstanding student of the bible, and he fearlessly exposed as false such doctrines as the trinity and the immortality of the soul.

he discerned that christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914.. pretty sickening article overall about how badass the gb is, though this little gem is printed as well, paragraph 12. the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

prologos

TSSYF: " However, at that time they believed that Christ’s presence had begun in 1874, that he had begun to rule in heaven in 1878, and that the Kingdom would not be fully set up until October 1914. The harvest would extend from 1874 to 1914 and would culminate in the gathering of the anointed to heaven. Do mistaken ideas such as these cast doubt on whether Jesus was guiding those faithful ones by means of holy spirit?

The deeper intention behind this composition in the "k" book is, to imply, that there is real solid "truth" about 1914, that the witnesses just did not discover it in time. of course, the whole thing starting with the talking snake is a fabrication, and discussing all these possibilities is WT's way of mind control.

The creator of the mighty universe would have never let his reps mentally flounder about the event that exceeds in importance even the big bang creation , namely the beginning of the eternal rule of all he created.

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11th hour...

by zeb in

jw
friends

the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.. "they shall not grow old as we who are left grow old.

age shall not weary them or the years condemn.. at the going down of the sun and in the morning we shall remember them..".

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Since I joined the jw religion in part because of their anti-war participation record, and having lived near the most dangerous places during ww2, I deeply feel for all the war dead The saddest part is, that each soldier that died in all these conflicts might have taken a civilian with him, into an untimely, often horrible, and in the non-combatant's case, a non-consensual death.

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11th hour...

by zeb in

jw
friends

the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.. "they shall not grow old as we who are left grow old.

age shall not weary them or the years condemn.. at the going down of the sun and in the morning we shall remember them..".

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Those of us who have seen war, have seen these young men in combat, should not let the occasion pass without inviting reflection.

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Suspicious Attitude Toward Married Brothers...

by JW_Rogue in

this is kind of different but i just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.

it seems that younger married brothers are viewed with a certain level of suspicion in the congregation.

it's like the elders can be friendly with everyone in the hall including younger sisters.

prologos

Math 5:28, and the song "just one look, that's all it took" sums it up. For jws, the meetings, from District [region} to field service arrangement, are the great places to mingle, whether you are married or single. Imagine the good chosen seating view you can have on a real well done mating partner, for a full 2 hours. live

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Election Post-Mortem

by Simon in

i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

really, wtf!.

the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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LUHE: "This is all about Syria.

read the Huffington post article Simon linked, it could be about the greater millions that will be touched by possible Trump isolationism effects in Europe's Baltics, , Georgia, the Ukraine.

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11th hour...

by zeb in

jw
friends

the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.. "they shall not grow old as we who are left grow old.

age shall not weary them or the years condemn.. at the going down of the sun and in the morning we shall remember them..".

prologos

why? The tragedy of young men's deaths?

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Millionaire JW Elder hypocrite?!

by Alostpuppydog in

so i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.

it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?

i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.

prologos

k99:--"The WTS has never condemned wealth in itself or required a life of privation--

of course wt has not condemned wealth, how could they, wealth is central to their position, and their strength, but they have emasculated their workers, robbed them of the opportunity to get a grip on reasonable advancement by stealing the best years of their lives. Wealthy elders? naturally, done everything right to be wealthy, good managers, useful in any organisation like the wt. The real treason comes in, when such individuals go on the platform and take their " be a watchtower slave, pioneer during high school, right after high school, and while you raise your kids--" part, because look at me, I am sometimes on the pioneer list, and I am on the platform, and you are not.

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if people get left behind be careful

by pepperheart in

in this world there are becoming two sorts of people the ones with stupid amounts of money and the ones with very little money and the people in charge are going to get even more shocks if they dont share the money out in a more fair way.ive seen in the press that obama will be getting a house that costs over $4 million dollars and how many people are having to live on basic wage.there is plenty of money going around its just not shared out enough,rather than a lottery giving out a prize of $50 or $100 million dollars just think how many people would be blessed if that was dividid in $50,000 prizes and there would be more chances to win as well.some people have to work for a whole year or even two to get that amount of money .

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One of the worst offenders in leaving people behind of course is wt. employing full time workers aka "servants" without pay with a promise in a stake in a non-existing paradise hope, based on a talking snake story (minus the oil).

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Election Post-Mortem

by Simon in

i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

really, wtf!.

the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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nswtg: "All depends now on how Trump and NATO get on...NATO without US are goosed and Europe will be there for the taking by Putin....and he knows it.

Perhaps the hawks that will surround Trump , will get his temper up when Russia keeps pushing into territory that he by law is obligated to defend. all he demanded during the election speeches was to have Europe take on more of the defense effort, a good idea, given the first class job that Russian propaganda, education has done to smear the real benefactors in the post-era mess, the USA, and to eradicate the memory of the war, crimes .ethnic cleansing against millions of Poles, germans. perpetrated by the soviet regime.