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Memorial 2017
by wifibandit in
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instead of making a new thread for every little thing related to memorial 2017, i'm going to try to post here.

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and to start us off.... cart artwork for 2017 memorial invitations.
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WMF: "Prosperity? I dont recall that ever being a lure for the unwary to come join the cult and to get into the magical kingdom.
They missed out in their choice of words. prosperity? how about Security ?
Peace, - and Security. for crying out loud.
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Memorial 2017
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
instead of making a new thread for every little thing related to memorial 2017, i'm going to try to post here.

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and to start us off.... cart artwork for 2017 memorial invitations.
prologos

schnell42 minutes ago: Maybe they took Jesus out to give the impression that they're really really really close to the end, like for realsies this time.
Jesus only works for the anointed, they become sin-free [d] instantly, the OS great crowd survivors, as pictured, have to work themselves out of it, for 1000 years. so: wt is right to not even have him hover in heaven, over the miniature niagara.
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The Resurrection and Trump
by Quarterback in
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well, if trump starts a nuclear war, and no survivors exist.

then everyone that dies before armaggedon will come back in the resurection in the new system.

no great crowd to survive the gt.
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By the way, which came first, the chicken or the egg?
the rooster, so: trump the roaster, we are all toast?
no, he will not, in a avoidable nuclear exchange, trade Riga for Reno or Warsaw for Washington,
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Memorial 2017
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
instead of making a new thread for every little thing related to memorial 2017, i'm going to try to post here.

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and to start us off.... cart artwork for 2017 memorial invitations.
prologos

Is this supposed to be a scene of the event in the new world paradise? then, there is an anachronism here. The celebration is supposed to stop with the last "anointed overlapper" called to heaven, before the battle of Armageddon, when he arrives; so what are these rather unenthusiastic nearly perfect people going down for?
of course, by right the wine and bread , if they symbolize the means to end imperfection, should be consumed right until the end of the 1000 years, because only then are sins worked out of our systems? right? so: let's make the Earth great again (great line ttdtt} with or without help from above.
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Memorial 2017
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
instead of making a new thread for every little thing related to memorial 2017, i'm going to try to post here.

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and to start us off.... cart artwork for 2017 memorial invitations.
prologos

Are the survivors in the tract wading their way through mist or spun cotton? And why is that so?
This is not a survivor scene, where are the billions of rotten corpes, and note not many trump voters among the survivors either.
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Memorial 2017
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
instead of making a new thread for every little thing related to memorial 2017, i'm going to try to post here.

.

and to start us off.... cart artwork for 2017 memorial invitations.
prologos

T 2001: "Talking about the Memorial,
that was just the daily text yesterday, sunday Nov.13. It starts out alright, wine= new covenant= poured out for many [not few], for forgiveness of sins, [needed by all], and wine served to the 11/12 apostles that were not anointed [yet]. but then twists down to applying Math.26:28 only to the [not yet anointed], in the other, the kingdom covenant. and:
not to forget John 6, where Jesus said: unless you eat and drink you will not--- have everlasting life. Everlasting life= life in restored earthly paradise, whereas anointed 144000 = immortality in heaven.
good picture, it is downhill all the way.
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Watchtower's "New Light" re Babylonish Captivity, November 2016 WT
by Room 215 in
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2. bible
has anyone noticed the wt's most recent shell-game revisionism in the november study tractazine, relating to the shifting of its "babylonish captivity" doctrine, from a 3 1/2-year period around the ww 1 years, to a period now spanning about 16 centuries, or from the 4th century (constantine's legal recognition of christianity) to 1919?.
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perhaps the wt thinking is: we have to justify the no Governing Body, no F&DS, no "true christians" to speak of for nearly 2 millennia? How can you have rule in jerusalem if you are in exile (spiritually speaking) so:, see:--it all had to wait, restored kingdom, restored governing Body, new Faithful & d-slave, all now, 1914-1919
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Is there Scriptural Evidence to a Resurrection during the 1,000 year Reign?
by Listener in
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this question was addressed on the jw advisor blog (a defending watchtower website), july 24,2016 .

the answer is interesting because it is more in accord with what the bible fortells but it is not in accord with what the watchtower is currently teaching and has been for decades.

it has been suggested on this forum that the site has been sanctioned by the watchtower or written by writers at hq.this is the current view of the watchtower and is under 'bible teachings' on jw org.
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Wt believers, and detractors just have to worry about the fleshly resurrection, pity the catholics, they believe that too, but in addition in the immortality of the soul, and it's stages. best to have left Catholicism first, wt second.
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How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75
by dogon in
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i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
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Fis: "Anyone at that time reading the literature and listening to the discourses could only conclude that the FDS believed 1975 was the "finish line."
The reason for the stunned silence of the wt leadership to the surge in 1975, was that for the first time they actually saw the hand of god in action Vox populi, vox dei.

Fin: "Fear and anxiety was rampant to say the least
even worldly magnates, that respected the sincere witnesses, had the fear of 1975 in them. it was the time to be a long time special pioneer, basking in security.
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Millionaire Elder JW umm...wtf?!
by Alostpuppydog in
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2. beliefs
so i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.

it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?

i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.
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Elders , MS' are supposed be "not lovers of money" , so, the many millionaires among them must be really miserable, stuck with all that hateful loot they schemed and worked so hard for, worse, no relief in sight.