Posts by prologos

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The "anointed generation" is wrong, not because it is dragging on too long, but because it is too short.

by prologos in

jesus taught a surviving generation, a group inhering everlasting life, an escape route to avoid a global disaster worse than the flood, a generation that "will not pass away--" an infinite generation.

wt teaches a generation that dies, ends, passes away, at the first sign of real trouble, the great tribulation.. what do you believe about this wt assertion?

(apart from that there is no talking snake, it is all irrelevant).

prologos

notjustyet, anointed1, thanks,

The problem with the generation is not that is now overlapping. that idea was a reaction to 1914 fading into the past. too fast. The problem is the "anointing" of the generation, overlapping or not. If anointed, they will have to report for combat duty in heaven, -- well ahead of the start of the war: -- Armageddon, and they are not supposed to die, pass away, until the sheep are in paradise.

split personalities? or anointed Schroedinger cats? dead and alive at the same time? really?,

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need to "stay alive to xx75" to prove wt wrong? again?

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you dont have be alive to 2075 to prove that the wt's anointed generation is and will prove to be wrong, it is!

and you can do it now, by asking just one question:.

does the "generation" prophecy of math.

prologos

Listener you said: "it now becomes obvious that they are only talking about 'this generation' indicating a time during the GT, not Armageddon itself

Listener, thank you! that is why I started the 'one question topic' " is Armageddon in the "all things of Math 24,"??

Not only is the flood-like Armageddon, but even the entry of the righteous sheep included in the all things that Jesus discussed. At one point wt had the anointed survive Armageddon, and supervising paradise construction, walking the new earth, that can't be if they fight in the heavens and are in the marriage of the lamb) bible not well proofread.

"-the GT could last for decades (or even Centuries).

not a new idea, some have proposed that the Great Tribulation is all the old world troubles that Christians are in throughout time. so:

perhaps wt thought by going with "anointed" generation, they would make it appear shorter, but they have actually made it potentially longer, even impossible. the generation is not anointed only, it is composite,

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need to "stay alive to xx75" to prove wt wrong? again?

by prologos in

you dont have be alive to 2075 to prove that the wt's anointed generation is and will prove to be wrong, it is!

and you can do it now, by asking just one question:.

does the "generation" prophecy of math.

prologos

sparky1, The Mount of Olives talk covers answers to Questions about the first signs of trouble, to the end of the world. Jesus went beyond that, in the last words in 25; 46 : "--the righteous depart into eternal life. -- supposedly the earthly kingdom of the sheep.

In the middle of his talk, verse 34, he mentioned that the generation will not pass away "until all these things occur" . all these things are not only the preceding signs, but include the totality of his answer. including the goat and sheep outcome, that wt has put appropriately at the end of the Armageddon event. ( in the chart on page 225 and p.17)

The verse 34 "generation not passing away" is bracketed before and after by reference to the Noah's flood, showing the continuity of all the things from end of religion to paradise, that Jesus covered.

The generation of sheep alive at the end of Armageddon, the destruction of the goats, would be the potential generation that never passes away.

Your assertion that I am in error is not the subject matter here, but the fact that wt has their "anointed generation" peter out not later than the onset of Armageddon. In contrast, Jesus puts ""all things, including the flood-like Armageddon destruction, central to his answers, assuring us that even everlasting life for the righteous sheep is happening to the life of the generation that will not pass away. now

Your highlighting the "until", does it mean the generation has to pass eventually?. yes,

life will have to continue elsewhere in 5 billion years.

the decision to making the generation "anointed" was short-sighted, that generation passes away too soon, before the crucial, central theme, Flood-like Armageddon event and paradise.

ps: the "not passing away until", or passing away assuredly, could be explained away in comparing it to the "until the moon is no more" bible time slackness. the fact that the time is limited in the generation context is not followed that it should be limited in the cosmic sense. or?

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need to "stay alive to xx75" to prove wt wrong? again?

by prologos in

you dont have be alive to 2075 to prove that the wt's anointed generation is and will prove to be wrong, it is!

and you can do it now, by asking just one question:.

does the "generation" prophecy of math.

prologos

sparky1

thank you for picking up this thread, I can see on pages 224-25 a continuation of bottom line through the A into the david Splane area, almost into Armageddon. agreed. and then in

par. 16: " how does this gathering relate -- relate to what will happen next, Armageddon? --In heaven, the 1444000 corulers with Christ will--wield the iron rod against all enemies of God's Kingdom.

Par. 17: The war of Armageddon --is the finale of the Great tribulation . At that point {end of Armageddon}. Jesus will take on an added task--Executioner of all the people judged as "goats" Math. 25.

Here is confirmed my key proposition.

The anointed will have passed away, to heaven before "all these things", Armageddon, even the execution of the goats !! Math. 25, have occurred.

If they have passed away, they can not be the generation that will not pass away. simple.

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need to "stay alive to xx75" to prove wt wrong? again?

by prologos in

you dont have be alive to 2075 to prove that the wt's anointed generation is and will prove to be wrong, it is!

and you can do it now, by asking just one question:.

does the "generation" prophecy of math.

prologos

Sparky1 you said: "

David Splanes chart specifically shows that some of the 'anointed' will pass through the 'great tribulation

Sparky1: , respectfully NO! it does not!. not the shown chart, nor any recent wt illustrations show the anointed passing through the Great Tribulation. To the contrary, wt has emphasised, that the anointed would have to die and go to heaven as early as possible, ( to shorten the tiring waiting time for it's members), but mainly to have the resurrected anointed participate in the Great Tribulation /Armageddon warfare from heaven.
The anointed generation is so short lived, because they are needed in heaven. A premature departure.

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The "anointed generation" is wrong, not because it is dragging on too long, but because it is too short.

by prologos in

jesus taught a surviving generation, a group inhering everlasting life, an escape route to avoid a global disaster worse than the flood, a generation that "will not pass away--" an infinite generation.

wt teaches a generation that dies, ends, passes away, at the first sign of real trouble, the great tribulation.. what do you believe about this wt assertion?

(apart from that there is no talking snake, it is all irrelevant).

prologos

great comments, heartfelt no doubt, anybody interested why it is wrong and too short? I mean, it is bad enough that it is so long, everybody knows that, but doubly wrong because it is quickie?

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"Religion of Peace" Busy In Europe Today...

by freemindfade in

turkey and now berlin, the abrahamic mind virus strikes again... actually there is no confirmation the truck attack was islam, but... it's probably islam.

at least in europe, they call terrorist attacks just that, unlike here in america, we have become so crazy we have clear terrorist attacks, some over a year old now that they still question the motive ala san bernadino.. religion .

prologos

loveUni: may be they are tracing, where he will try to find asylum next, and his handlers.?

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"Religion of Peace" Busy In Europe Today...

by freemindfade in

turkey and now berlin, the abrahamic mind virus strikes again... actually there is no confirmation the truck attack was islam, but... it's probably islam.

at least in europe, they call terrorist attacks just that, unlike here in america, we have become so crazy we have clear terrorist attacks, some over a year old now that they still question the motive ala san bernadino.. religion .

prologos

They caught the driver-- p.

sorry to have passed on a dubious news story, it came from a respected source. real driver is still at large. or again?

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The "anointed generation" is wrong, not because it is dragging on too long, but because it is too short.

by prologos in

jesus taught a surviving generation, a group inhering everlasting life, an escape route to avoid a global disaster worse than the flood, a generation that "will not pass away--" an infinite generation.

wt teaches a generation that dies, ends, passes away, at the first sign of real trouble, the great tribulation.. what do you believe about this wt assertion?

(apart from that there is no talking snake, it is all irrelevant).

prologos

Outlaw[ed] Sanchy, I agree almost with your in-pot, but I like to get the jw community to stare at the arrows, and realize: that is not what I read in Math: 24.25, or even in the gist of other wt teachings.

The anointed generation is wrong, it's not too long, it is too short!!

hard to see, not because it easy, but because it is hard.

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The "anointed generation" is wrong, not because it is dragging on too long, but because it is too short.

by prologos in

jesus taught a surviving generation, a group inhering everlasting life, an escape route to avoid a global disaster worse than the flood, a generation that "will not pass away--" an infinite generation.

wt teaches a generation that dies, ends, passes away, at the first sign of real trouble, the great tribulation.. what do you believe about this wt assertion?

(apart from that there is no talking snake, it is all irrelevant).

prologos

Village Idiot: It is not the "overlapping" that is wrong, it is idiotic of course.

It is the fact that the generation is supposed to be surviving, eternal even, but the wt anointed generation dies. it is too short. overlapping or not.