notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from israel.. 9 after this i saw, and look!
a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ .
this great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from every nation!
of the tribe of Joseph--Ephraim and Manasseh--but excludes the tribe of Dan)
GLTirebiter: That switch always gave comfort to me, and should to many users here, because:
Joseph was the original whistleblower, hated by all the other jws of his time, and got a double reward for it, so , watch out wt, joseph is alive and well here.
the 144000 could not be the great crowd, but the 12 tribes that they come out of could could be. .
so just finished telling your concerns about the pedophiles cover up, failed prophecies, revisionists history and lack of financial transparency.
so elders ask you the questions.
" so does this mean you don't want to to be a jw anymore?
then they ask "do you believe Jehovah is directing his organization today?
nowhat?--answer: who else would be? obviously he is watching watchtower, keeping it going to see what "heavier judgement" he is going met out, including to you.
James 3:1,subtly remind them they are the ones that are in trouble, setting up their judgement, that starts with the "house of god"
funny but for whatever reason, i can't stop singing walking in integrity from the old songbook!
it's in my head and in my opinion it was one of the few songs i really liked..
I agree with blondie question, , suppress the wt lyrics, I am a melody man, and " We thank you --" stood out as a melody, on par with God save the Queen, Deutschland , and the Russian national Anthem. How about "power divine"? used to hum it in the service when alone. current , no-service humming list : 111,134,106 ,104,82, most the new ones? , the product of an overlapping twisted mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5sr2z-pvm.
Am I the only one who can see the same face in three of those blue bubbles ? Am I unique?
smiddy, yes you are. one reason the multiverse idea is so appealing to some is, because it is a way to allow for life supposedly to have appeared by chance alone. so these faces you see are an illusion, each bubble is unique like you.
The multiverse hypothesis, just kicks the ball down the road, because did it make itself?and:
The laws in our own universe worked perfectly enough to have us appear. uniquely.
during the watchtower study today, i browsed genesis and looked for evidence of noah ever preaching to anyone.
from what i could glean from the scriptures, it was a foregone conclusion that noah's family would be it on the ark.
(unless they towed some rafts behind) my wife says that building the ark could be considered a witness of his faith to the wicked world, but that seems kind of lame to me.. so, should i just assume that god decided not to give anyone else a chance for redemption?
wt always made a difference between preaching (warning) and disciple-making work, aka bible study. Noah was not trying to make disciples. at best perhaps trying to recruit people to help him, that, with a false hope of salvation through works. That what wt does. free labor for the non-existing hope of salvation.
Noah and Jesus were wood workers, If you have ever worked manually with wood, even when not using dull bronze age handtools, all day long, day in and day out, you will do little else. (Jesus quit it to do the preaching)
The preaching is more believable than the joinery to lift elephants above everest.
source: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.
"nothing is hidden.
jehovah's eyes sees everything.
donations in France seems to be very little...
sp74bb: They have to watch their wallets, France is the country with the longest overlapping generation. 122 years just for juste one group, voire Jeanne Calment 122 plus years. ca est calment.
well i think as the exposure becomes greater of the wt hypocrisy and cover up that the likelihood of this happening great.
no retirement funds for all those laid off when they were no longer profitable due to old age has got to bite these guys in the ass some day.. and maybe in the process of man's enlighten world view and a better understanding the cruelty of disfellowshipping member and enforcing a communication ban ones family members may open them up from another class action lawsuit over such egregious action caused by a religious printing organization domination over peoples action through deceit and clever lies about supernatural claims of authority.. either way i think they are going to need a lot of outside legal help in the future as lawsuits will pile up around the world which that alone could dry up all their funds in defense costs..
fat chance for: "your rewards will be in the heavens" it was always understood that the resurrection hope, assured through maximised wt slavery, would be the reward. and "your father will provide all these things" Math. 6:33. If the wt god does not follow through, is that wt's fault?
i've done a few of these over the years but this time it's very simple.. beware jc, the bearded man who promises salvation and raises the hopes of many.
read his words of division if you're ever tempted to join his followers, or just ignore him and enjoy your life.
happy holidays everyone!
Today we celebrate my parents' anniversary. Because a long time ago my dad figured nothing would be open.
and hey decided to change that. a good opening move, and the rest is history.
source: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.
"nothing is hidden.
jehovah's eyes sees everything.
going to Germany?, yes, you seem to hear that so much these days, from afghanistan to gambia. , A very permissive setup. a lot of shady goings on there. but bethel germany is efficirnt:
perhaps jws are contributing so much money because they think it is a substitute for useless house to house service hours. . schuldgeld sans frontieres.
from jw org.
“six thousand years of human existence”.
in 1969 the watchtower magazine in czech began publishing a series of articles based on the book life everlasting—in freedom of the sons of god.
did not wt, riding the 75 wave, initiated a "6 month limit of study to baptism" program to finish the work by 75? No cautionary letters were read in the mainstream North American field imho. but then,
the Czechs were always smart, still are,- smarter than merkel.
