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"This Generation" that will not pass away -- are the Wicked;- anointed or not.

by prologos in

1generation2groups made good observation,: jesus was talking to earthly hope believers, like their contemporaries.

but according to wt writers, "jesus had in mind" a greater fulfillment, where the earthly class would never pass away (flesh would be saved), but the anointed would be alive and witness part of the great tribulation, but die, resurrect, be gathered, raptured before the climatic armageddon.

so who could be left that will eventually pass away but be kept alive until "all these things" including armageddon ---occur?

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beth. The anointed generation is a false doctrine per se, because it does not fit the time parameters set by the Jesus discourse when seen as the secondary, final fulfillment. The overlapping part is a total made-up fiction, that would also apply to the natural generation, that since 1914 would run out in 2034 at the latest too.

thank you for at least talking, I am surprised nobody has taken up the fact that The anointed can not possibly be the generation, as wt describes them in their defining illustrations now. of course the bible is not all the truth anyway, It has some truth in it, but it is fabulous stories for children ranked best with the brothers grimm, a grimm fact parishioners, the R&F will not face up to.

do you understand the details why i say that? about he groups in the generation, past 2075?

P.S. one way to get some JWs to loosen up on the wtBtS.inc gripis to show that the doctrines are BOGUS

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Ex-Jehovah's Witness elder jailed for sex assaults on schoolgirl

by LevelThePlayingField in

this is becoming more common.

this is from the last part of the article: .

"this was about sexual gratification and you are a hypocrite because you became an elder and you investigated a sexual matter even with this in your sexual background.".

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stan livedeath: i wonder why the victim waited so long to bring the case. compen$ation perhaps ?

yeah, imagine the compensations due from the lax authorities that the 1500 (one thousand five hundred) raped girls just 46 miles from this convict could aim for. don't get me wrong, I advocate the death penalty for 100% confirmed rapists

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"This Generation" that will not pass away -- are the Wicked;- anointed or not.

by prologos in

1generation2groups made good observation,: jesus was talking to earthly hope believers, like their contemporaries.

but according to wt writers, "jesus had in mind" a greater fulfillment, where the earthly class would never pass away (flesh would be saved), but the anointed would be alive and witness part of the great tribulation, but die, resurrect, be gathered, raptured before the climatic armageddon.

so who could be left that will eventually pass away but be kept alive until "all these things" including armageddon ---occur?

prologos

1generation2groups made good observation,: Jesus was talking to Earthly Hope believers, like their contemporaries. but According to WT writers, "Jesus had in mind" a greater fulfillment, where the earthly class would never pass away (flesh would be saved), but the anointed would be alive and witness part of the Great Tribulation, but die, resurrect, be gathered, raptured before the climatic Armageddon. So who could be left that will eventually pass away but be kept alive until "all these things" including Armageddon ---occur?

1) not the anointed, they are goners before Armageddon, 2) not the faithful wt other sheep. they will never pass away so. 3) it must be the wicked, anointed or not, that all will "not be gone until" all these things, including the final test occurred. but will be finally gone.

will not pass away--until all occurs. but will pass away.

now--about that snake--

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Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc

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Splash
02:05 - "Who was he talking to? He was still talking to his disciples. So the WT made clear it was not the wicked, it was the anointed who saw the sign that would make up This Generation."

notice the lawyer speak: "--anointed who [later] saw the sign--" different from anointed heard the speech, but remember, the anointed did not partake at the last supper, memorial, OS did. The only anointed did not

.PS: double speak: Not only did the early anointed see the sign, but the destruction too, which according the overlapping doctrine's end, the anointed will not see, raptured before Armageddon starts.

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Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc

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he was 'baptised into Jesus' death on Nov. 1913. This sounds like a very different type of baptism than what is now practised. listener

hear hear! now baptised in recognition of Jehovah's Spirit Directed Organisation, and,-- prior to to 1933, Baptism also meant anointing (except the 120)'

added PS: Quivelling about a few months difference of anointing date, (who remember their date of baptism), when the event speculated about is imaginary and decades away.

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Ex-Jehovah's Witness elder jailed for sex assaults on schoolgirl

by LevelThePlayingField in

this is becoming more common.

this is from the last part of the article: .

"this was about sexual gratification and you are a hypocrite because you became an elder and you investigated a sexual matter even with this in your sexual background.".

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Not being caught out for 3 years means an elder is home free, normally, doesnt it? JWdaughter

If the elder can hide it , the statutes of limitations are 3 years, unless there is 'notoriety', public disclosure, --then history can reach back more than 40 years and justice will be done as happened to that then teenager for his misdeeds.

added PS. meanwhile, in a city less than 50 miles away, a few members of a related religion abused 1500 minors a shorter time ago and?

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Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc

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This should add to our conviction that little time remains before the King of God’s Kingdom acts to destroy the wicked and usher in a righteous new world.—2 Pet. 3:13. (bald eagle)

When the word "destroy" is used by wt, it must refer to Armageddon? just as the "end" prophecy by Jesu was about the destruction of the temple, Jerusalem? so here:

The wt prophecy of the overlapping anointed group says that all anointed will pass away, be raptured before Armageddon. , whereas Jesus said "will not pass away--" before the destruction of Jerusalem, will survive because of fleeing (refugees already then) -- , some lived 30 + years past that passing away . what would we do without the Revelation, written in 100 CE? and:

D. Splaine mentioning the unknown anointed, here is a well known, George Gangas, serving in 1914 as an 18 year old , died in 1996. an imaginary overlapper G Gangas the II, with a similar record would take the second group past 2075, so, what is a hundert years between friends? when it comes to the end of the word? if you are wrong once, it is so easy to do it again.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-22-2015 WT Study (God Loves us?)

by blondie in

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blondies highlights from the 11-22-2015 wt study (september 15, 2015) (jehovah love us).

excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

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thank you for the reminder. the message from the wt: do not expect much from us either, ruling with the greater invisible David.

PP14 David disciplined for adultery and murder…Under the law adulterers and murderers were to be put to death…no exceptions no showing mercy get out of death clause; unless you are the king of Israel. Uriah died, the illegitimate child died, sons of David died, and 70,000 innocent people died for David’s sins.

Wt comment: Jehovah handled the case himself, not allowing humans to judge the affair. yeah, killing 70 000+ innocents, when removing 2 guilty would have done. so, the moral: jws,--- look forward to more of the same.

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New Generation Understanding

by momzcrazy in

hello everyone, i am new here and newly freed from the snare of wtbs.

my sister, also newly freed, said our mom told her at the annual meeting there was a new "understanding" on the generation confusion.

it is now the annointed that will not pass away.. has anyone else heard this?

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yes some on GB now in 50s - so if they live as long as Franz or Barber etc - the possible date for Armageddon has been moved forward 40 years - past my life time. jwexelder.

or if one takes the example of George Gangas the anointed two group overlappers will reach past 2075. What an appropriate failed centennial celebration. to look forward too for our grand-grand -children.

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Sheep and the Goats - The Light Gets Brighter

by nmthinker in

perhaps some of you remember a new understanding of the sheep and the goats in the epic march 2015 wt study edition - specifically the article "loyally supporting christ's brothers".. while this article was studied many months ago, it was instrumental in helping me wake up.

during my study of the 2015 article i recalled that we had just revised our understanding of the sheep and the goats a few years ago and this caused me to research the real progression of the jw understanding of this parable.

i put the results of my research in an excel spreadsheet.. .

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If you give time, labor, green handshake toward the wt G,O,D., you could not possibly become a sheep at the right hand, because you know what you do when you are doing it, even the tax year. because the sheep ask : "when did we feed, visited--

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Splash02:05 - "Who was he talking to? He was still talking to his disciples. So the WT made clear it was not the wicked, it was the anointed who saw the sign that would make up This Generation."

Splash
02:05 - "Who was he talking to? He was still talking to his disciples. So the WT made clear it was not the wicked, it was the anointed who saw the sign that would make up This Generation."