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  "This Generation" that will not pass away -- are the Wicked;- anointed or not.

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1generation2groups made good observation,: jesus was talking to earthly hope believers, like their contemporaries.

  but according to wt writers, "jesus had in mind" a greater fulfillment, where the earthly class would never pass away (flesh would be saved), but the anointed would be alive and witness part of the great tribulation, but die, resurrect, be gathered, raptured before the climatic armageddon.

  so who could be left that will eventually pass away but be kept alive until "all these things" including armageddon ---occur?

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  Vidiot. great idea, because the whole generation idea that wt has generated clearly belongs into the 'humour' section.

  Seeing whether a "generation" theory really fits the picture as claimed by wt writers is easy, when one looks at what the bible says about it; It has to survive Armageddon but ultimately die. so, a now living, latter day Methuselah even without the help of the ransom would only need a ~ 40 year overlap to make the lake of fire.

  To make the anointed fit the bill, the wt geniuses only have to bring back the old idea of the anointed class surviving Armageddon and get paradise supervised and kickstarted. May be D.Splaine would get a kick out of that idea.
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  Elder harassed my mom and asked for donation

  by kaik in

  1. social
  2. family

  my mom had surgery last month and she developed complication and had to be on antibiotics to treat infection.

  so, she is recovering slowly, but things was tough on her and she was not attending kh or went to assembly two weeks ago.

  nonetheless, elder showed up at her place and instead providing her with comfort he started to harass her that her faith is weak, she does not put trust in jah, etc.

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  He probably thinks the rich relative in the USA surely keeps her account overflowing, and wt and profiteers are harvesting the elderly's meager means of life.
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  So ... Russia and Nato at war? Should we be worried?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  it seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.

  i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.

  china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.

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  "--China shot down a US spy plane years ago--" I remember it was a joyriding fighter pilot who did aerobatics too close and got caught in the propeller, any way, -- a long drawn out hostage drama, leaving the mighty USA dangling in an impotence stalemate.

  Yeah, an interesting situation with The Russian base so close , and a narrow strip of Turkey that can be crossed in a few seconds near by. Reminds me of the Berlin airlift, with hundreds of allied planes in 2 corridors at all times over soviet controlled territory, and nuclear -capable B-29 US bombers sans bombs stationed in England. --

  Now, the victim Russia,--An Ace in Putin's hand of cards, ready to play it when and how he wants to, at his terms. but he should remember the Gallipoli lesson.
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  Ex-Jehovah's Witness elder jailed for sex assaults on schoolgirl

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is becoming more common.

  this is from the last part of the article: .

  "this was about sexual gratification and you are a hypocrite because you became an elder and you investigated a sexual matter even with this in your sexual background.".

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  r-8: "-speculation about her being near the age of consent is moot.-"

  we don't know, but she could have been of legal marrying age***, at least in some western jurisdictions at the time, and the whole question really was: "why did this possibly to happen outside marriage?"

  ***12. sick.but legal.
  
  
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  Ex-Jehovah's Witness elder jailed for sex assaults on schoolgirl

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is becoming more common.

  this is from the last part of the article: .

  "this was about sexual gratification and you are a hypocrite because you became an elder and you investigated a sexual matter even with this in your sexual background.".

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  One benefit of these publicised convictions, court cases, these discussions, even in the local papers is, that it will deter and give pause to active pedophiles to suppress, control their urges, and see the error, and consequences of their ways, particularly on their potential prey.

  I can not help but think though, that this particular verdict is a belated attempt by the local authorities to show their commitment to deal with this issues, seeing that Rotherham is just across the park so to speak, with it's infamous child rapes and inaction scandals. .
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  "This Generation" that will not pass away -- are the Wicked;- anointed or not.

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1generation2groups made good observation,: jesus was talking to earthly hope believers, like their contemporaries.

  but according to wt writers, "jesus had in mind" a greater fulfillment, where the earthly class would never pass away (flesh would be saved), but the anointed would be alive and witness part of the great tribulation, but die, resurrect, be gathered, raptured before the climatic armageddon.

  so who could be left that will eventually pass away but be kept alive until "all these things" including armageddon ---occur?

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  beth. The anointed generation is a false doctrine per se, because it does not fit the time parameters set by the Jesus discourse when seen as the secondary, final fulfillment. The overlapping part is a total made-up fiction, that would also apply to the natural generation, that since 1914 would run out in 2034 at the latest too.

  thank you for at least talking, I am surprised nobody has taken up the fact that The anointed can not possibly be the generation, as wt describes them in their defining illustrations now. of course the bible is not all the truth anyway, It has some truth in it, but it is fabulous stories for children ranked best with the brothers grimm, a grimm fact parishioners, the R&F will not face up to.

  do you understand the details why i say that? about he groups in the generation, past 2075?

  P.S. one way to get some JWs to loosen up on the wtBtS.inc gripis to show that the doctrines are BOGUS
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  Ex-Jehovah's Witness elder jailed for sex assaults on schoolgirl

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is becoming more common.

  this is from the last part of the article: .

  "this was about sexual gratification and you are a hypocrite because you became an elder and you investigated a sexual matter even with this in your sexual background.".

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  stan livedeath: i wonder why the victim waited so long to bring the case. compen$ation perhaps ?

  yeah, imagine the compensations due from the lax authorities that the 1500 (one thousand five hundred) raped girls just 46 miles from this convict could aim for. don't get me wrong, I advocate the death penalty for 100% confirmed rapists
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  "This Generation" that will not pass away -- are the Wicked;- anointed or not.

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1generation2groups made good observation,: jesus was talking to earthly hope believers, like their contemporaries.

  but according to wt writers, "jesus had in mind" a greater fulfillment, where the earthly class would never pass away (flesh would be saved), but the anointed would be alive and witness part of the great tribulation, but die, resurrect, be gathered, raptured before the climatic armageddon.

  so who could be left that will eventually pass away but be kept alive until "all these things" including armageddon ---occur?

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  1generation2groups made good observation,: Jesus was talking to Earthly Hope believers, like their contemporaries. but According to WT writers, "Jesus had in mind" a greater fulfillment, where the earthly class would never pass away (flesh would be saved), but the anointed would be alive and witness part of the Great Tribulation, but die, resurrect, be gathered, raptured before the climatic Armageddon. So who could be left that will eventually pass away but be kept alive until "all these things" including Armageddon ---occur?

  1) not the anointed, they are goners before Armageddon, 2) not the faithful wt other sheep. they will never pass away so. 3) it must be the wicked, anointed or not, that all will "not be gone until" all these things, including the final test occurred. but will be finally gone.

  will not pass away--until all occurs. but will pass away.

  now--about that snake--
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  Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)

  by wifibandit in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc

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  Splash
  02:05 - "Who was he talking to? He was still talking to his disciples. So the WT made clear it was not the wicked, it was the anointed who saw the sign that would make up This Generation."
  

  notice the lawyer speak: "--anointed who [later] saw the sign--" different from anointed heard the speech, but remember, the anointed did not partake at the last supper, memorial, OS did. The only anointed did not

  .PS: double speak: Not only did the early anointed see the sign, but the destruction too, which according the overlapping doctrine's end, the anointed will not see, raptured before Armageddon starts.
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  Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc

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  he was 'baptised into Jesus' death on Nov. 1913. This sounds like a very different type of baptism than what is now practised. listener

  hear hear! now baptised in recognition of Jehovah's Spirit Directed Organisation, and,-- prior to to 1933, Baptism also meant anointing (except the 120)'

  added PS: Quivelling about a few months difference of anointing date, (who remember their date of baptism), when the event speculated about is imaginary and decades away.