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  No more pain sorrow or crying in new system!!!!!!!

  by atomant in

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  "and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain.

  for the old world and its evils are gone forever.

  " rev.

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  that is why when talking to the other near or past 90 year olds, I do not mention the far future, but always stress the satisfactions of the past lives. The pains of the past are already forgotten, but the satisfaction to have life and have had it for ~9 decades makes the pains of late life well worth it. A life lived well is better than illusions about the future. the future will take care of itself. No "ill loose" ions here, apart from the peace and quiet of unconscious death.
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  What I thought CLAM meant , can you think of anymore ?

  by smiddy in

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  for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .

  christ left a ministry , or meeting .

  children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).

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  Cult Learning And Mindcontrol

  Common Loosing Advancement Methods

  Can't Learn Anything More

  Crummy Literature Analyzing Members

  Catastrophically Limited Atrophied Minds
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  Hi, Anyone here from/live in Hawaii

  by finallysomepride in

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  hi.

  i'm going to be in hawaii (honolulu) from the monday 4th april 2016 until sunday 10th april, just wondering if anyone wants to meet up.. edit: visiting from australia (actually a new zealander living in brisbane, australia).

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  this is not a new idea, certainly not for an Australian, but try the surf in Waikiki, at low tide. a very long ride and with reef walkers you can actually stand on the seafloor and catch a wave without any paddling, if you are a beginner. This is a cool way to reconnect with the energy of the universe!
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  Armageddon is coming! New Dates Predicted (satire)

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  kudos to jwn roving correspondent sd-7 for his insightful comments in a recent thread.

  as a result of his inspired utterance, i received a flash of insight that has allowed me to predict with uncanny accuracy the exact date for armageddon's arrival.

  what follows are sd-7's comments and my calculations.

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  The theory of relativity, conceived by imperfect humans in a satan dominated world does not allow any "Rock " to be accelerated to the speed of light, so 2334-70 is a very early guestimate. (which all the previous posts imply). But with the unlimited power of "god",if the "rock" could reach that velocity, and using the equations, it would shrink into a 2 dimensional sheet. In other words, the approach and arrival of Armageddon's rock will be invisible, like all that amounts to the (invisibly) spirit direction. are you off your rock[er]?
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  Cedar Point 1922 convention attendees, are you still happy?

  by Nambo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “happy is the one who keeps in expectation* and who arrives at the 1,335 days!.

  we all know the climax of the book of daniel, the fulfillment of all god's prophetic promises to mankind found their fulfillment at the 1922 cedar point convention, nothing more ecstatic will ever befall mankind as this wonderful convention.. those of us born after 1922 are so jealous that we missed the only "happy" event that would befall gods people in the end times.

  can you guys tell us about it before you await the resurrection as there is nothing "happy" promised for us to look forward too.. or has "new light" been shed on my favourite jw claim of scriptural fulfillment being realised in themselves?

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  Can someone put this in clear terms? all pre-1930 wt adherents were anointed, had to die to go to heaven, so who did they think these never to die millions were to be in 1919? was not the Great Crowd of Other Sheep only invented in 1935? surely the prospective Beth-Sarim old faithful could not be the one's that would never die, they already had died at least once, unless they were the old resurrected ones, widows?
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  Evolution a Fact - Agreed but So What?

  by LAWHFol in

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  2. beliefs

  in many debates between believers and non believers (nb), the nb uses evolution as some sort of proof to support the non existence of god.. i agree that evolution is a fact, however i feel that evolution is proof of some sort of benevolent original cause.. if i were to create an a.i.

  , i would program into it the ability to self-refactor and evolve.. i would also randomly inject viruses into the program (evil) where the a.i.

  would be forced to stretch its current capabilities & modify it's operating functions in order to get through the random virus, and continue living.. with a steady flow of different viruses, the a.i.

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  it is not apparent that a possible "Deist" creator would have to micro-manage the universe. From personal experience as a survivor, there is very little pain felt and remembered in catastrophic events, Somehow the ancestors that developed the adrenalin / morphine response to schreck, reproduced well. and, without previous star generations evolving and dying there would not be carbon, no developing terrestrial life,

  There is a good reason why there is trial in terrestrial. and error.
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  Evolution a Fact - Agreed but So What?

  by LAWHFol in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in many debates between believers and non believers (nb), the nb uses evolution as some sort of proof to support the non existence of god.. i agree that evolution is a fact, however i feel that evolution is proof of some sort of benevolent original cause.. if i were to create an a.i.

  , i would program into it the ability to self-refactor and evolve.. i would also randomly inject viruses into the program (evil) where the a.i.

  would be forced to stretch its current capabilities & modify it's operating functions in order to get through the random virus, and continue living.. with a steady flow of different viruses, the a.i.

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  does that coincided with a designed universe ? Since all we have, the laws, the energy, the material, time, produced us through the evolutionary process, it would no doubt allow us too,- to develop technology in the the next 3 billion years that this planet will remain inhabitable, to transfer life, if not individuals, to another world. one way or another.

  we have to get used to it, every thing and process has an build-in expiration date, Evolution would not work without it is that not a fact? even the sun has just set,- finkelstein. right?
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  What was the "Pecking order" in your congro??

  by karter in

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  2. experiences

  in my old congro the p.o's wife came 1st before anyone and i mean anyone!!.

  karter..

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  these things should be the reason of the wt collapse, but is not. so the top is the same. condoning it, using it thriving on it.
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  Stupid Organization!

  by stillin in

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  2. beliefs

  a while back, a local witness lost their home in a fire.

  an announcement was made at the meeting that if anybody wanted to contribute, they could do so through their service group overseer.

  my guess is that this arrangement is meant to bring tears of joy to the eyes of the impoverished one, and thankfulness to "jehovah's organization.

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  stillin: wanted to contribute, they could do so through their service group overseer. yeah. wt has to get control. especially of the money.

  you are better of to give personally Math: 25 says nothing of giving through or to an organisation; "-- You did to me--"
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  Starlight in a Young Universe

  by Perry in

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  the scientific method begins with a faith statement called a hypothesis, and then goes on to look for evidence, for or against support of the faith statement.. secular materialists often change their ideas on exactly how things have made themselves, but never whether they did.. the manifesto for this self imposed mental ban seems to be summed up by geneticist richard lewontin:.

  ‘our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural.

  we take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.. it is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated.

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  since the topic was about the oldest stars in a young universe , here is a link:
  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/01/160122144733.htm

  question to Perry:,

  these, and subsequent stars are dying. is it because they sinned too, or Adam would sin 13 billion years later?