Posts by prologos

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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najw: "Without knowing the values of those distances I have to object to that assertion. The only way you can maintain those ratios to be true all the time you would need concentric circular orbits and identical duration of their rotation around the sun. But none of this is true. Please explain.

I already gave the [cl]ever doubling distances between planets in 1/10 AU in the last post above, and mentioned Kepler's laws, which will give you the revolution time and speed, and my numbers refer to the mean orbit values. , Pluto's at 388, is very eccentric, but still fits the pattern;-- 92% of the planetary mass rotates at 10 hours per their day, but Mercury, Venus are already gravitationally slowed by solar tidal effects. Both the Earth and Jupiter have quite circular orbits, apparently the mass, or rotation are not factors in the regular spacing, so what could be?.---sorry, I could not align the above tabulation, but someone could have noticed that Mercury and Neptune are not included in this geometric series, which makes it different from strictly "Bode", a series that would end inwardly with ever smaller divisions by half at "4", or ~(.4 AU) does anybody care? It is an amazing set-up, that had set up itself. having a system with at least 9 freely orbiting bodies align in doubling distances.

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

prologos

A ha, here is my comment: sorry, but here, from my unaided memory,-- are the numbers to within ~3% . In 1/10 of AUs.

Venus 7 to Earth; 10 [fingers] = 3. ---- Earth 10 to Mars 16, = 6; the double of 3.-- Mars 16 to Ceres 28 =12 the double of 6.--Asteroids 28 to Jupiter 52 = 24, the double of 12.-- Jupiter 52 to Saturn 100, = 48, the double of 24, --- Saturn 100 to Uranus 196 = 96 , the double of 48.-- Uranus 196 to Pluto 388 = 192 , the double of 96,-- and -----

There are 7 octaves or doublings of orbit radius, or diameter*** differences. in the solar system as far as we know so far, not out. Using Kepler's laws you can convert these distances to times., or orbital velocities, all in similar ratios. The 2 important ones, Earth, because life is here, and Jupiter, for it has most of planetary mass, the gravitational influence, are within .5% of these idealized values. so:?

Ps I am not saying that the deist god inspired Steinway & Cie, but similar results could indicate similar methods. *** I chose orbit diameters because of the 1000 seconds ligh-speed figure for the earth orbit. time conversion.You are right, octaves would change the whole orbit, not the orbit size difference, thank you for the correction!!

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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In Carroll's book, " from eternlty to here", the observation is made, that sequences recurring in unrelated fields can reveal deeper underlying common truth. case in point: William Herschel, the composer and discoverer of "Uranus" aka George's Star, could have said to himself : Hm-- Hym-- Those octave organ pipes are always the double length of the previous one. Funny, -- Uranus, my baby, pride and joy, is double the distance from Saturn,compared to Jupiter, and that spacing is double from Jupiter, and that double from Ceres, and that double from Mars, and that double from Earth, and that double from Venus, -- The Solar system's orbits measurements surely look like organ pipes, oboe's wind length, harpsicord strings, ---but It took Gregory, Titius & Bode to publish that, and wave and resonance theories are surely part of physics, cosmology's future. and it is all in the laws/energy package that came through the beginning, a point in time. It is divine, if you enjoy music. great vibes. music of the planetary field, in addition to the orbital timing resonances, the quiet areas aka lagrangian points-----PS:

so: bringing c into that picture shows what cosmic time ings correspond to the length. surely a valid conjecture, and: allow me to remind you to remain on topic: Using the analogy of the planetary field as a dance floor: The sun, and the moon/earth pair, rotate in unison ~ 28.5 days per revolution. 99.9%of the mass, including the all important biomass.

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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Twitch I gave you a "like" on that, , being crazy really helps you when you age well and slowly. Music of the spheres? I heard that the highest notes are in vibrating strings, but I thought more 2 dimensional, of chladni plates, Cymbals of various sizes. . --The beauty of music, would that make the deist god a composer of heavenly music?.-- remember the line; "is god a mathematician?, --- I hope not? Ps: That thought you triggered is very appealing: The deist creator as an instrument maker, composer, the pre-primordial Stradivarius, Hayden? I had limited him to be a worker.

Twitch: "That there are mathematical relationships in nature isn't monumental; it's just physics.
and physics is embodied in the universe, in my view a real cathedral.

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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A Ha; "What would be really monumental is if there was a piece of toast that looked JUST LIKE JESUS!!!1!

with billions of multiverses cooking, it is surely going to happen. cook & look, You could be the toast of the town. PS, any comment like that from the past, and signed AH, would prove the diagnosis, and be worth a fortune now.

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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Twitch: "--would such coincidences be monumental?

not talking about the 1000 light second Earth orbit diameter, coincident, which is an artifact of all the manmade factors that go into that round , ten-finger figure. but let us assume, that in the speed of light, time vs length analysis', other resonances,-- linked to orbital or Star, or galaxy eigenschwingungen could be established? resonances on a cosmic scale?, that would be amazingly monumental imho.

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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Sl: "--figure even closer to the speed of light.

ok I bite on that. Of course, as cofty would say: "bollocks". The builders had enough trouble putting it together, to worry about "c" ratios; but if you could establish from data that increments in real world structures, in dynamics, have ratios that conform to a "speed-of-light" related pattern, --you could be on to something. Since even gravity's changes, are believed to propagate at c, many measurements are also representing wave length, distance , frequency values. Kepler mined the data of Brahe, and similarly, finding any pattern based on c could reveal a [standing] wave or resonance background. The coincident, that the diameter of the Earth's orbit is ~ 1000 light seconds just invites such analysis. that is why looking at the cosmos, rather than Washington's needly could be monumental.

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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V: " Jupiter rotates every 9.925 hours, Saturn at 10.6733.

That is the angular momentum coming out of the solar system's contracting disk. the scattering from the mean of ~ 10,-- +/- .75% you will find in most scientific observation data. If you get your kicks out of quibbling in 3/4 percentage points, rather than contributing positively , we all should feel sorry for you.

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In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name

by slimboyfat in

i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.

he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).

he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.

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let your name be sanctified, not vindicated. sanctified by not using it. like Jesus.

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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

by atomant in

just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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Viviane: "--Most planetary mass rotates at 10 hours, not 24 : no most don't rotate--

with due respect: Saturn rotation 10 hrs, at 10 AU distance, 21 % of all the planetary mass.
Jupiter rotates at 10 hrs at ~ 5 AU distance 71 % of the total planetary mass;-- ergo: 92 % of all the planetary mass rotates at 10 hrs, in angular momentum terms also the Earth Moon system. A stabilizing feature, when you consider we rotate ~in lunation in sync with the sun. harmonizing both in planetary mass and solar mass movement.

PS: and the delicate tissue - thin ring system of Saturn in that 10 hour regime should remind us how such conforming stability is rewarding. and: some of the planets had major disruptions, tidal effects in their history, Mercury, Venus, (tied to the sun) Uranus tilted past the vertical.-- it's a democracy, majority rule, you conform. you prosper.