Dizzycat, thanks for reply.
So what do you have in your garden?
when i surf on this discussion board i feel a lot of anger.
this is totally understandable because a lot of us suffered or still are suffering from their association with the watchtower society.
some of us are victims of child abuse.
Dizzycat, thanks for reply.
So what do you have in your garden?
i see that this board/forum has many serious, and what i consider to be meritous posters, that can usually be found dispelling the wtbts shyte.
since my foul arrival here in may, i have read and taken in volumes of great information from this site and it's links, which would have proved (and are) extremely helpful, and valuable to me had i felt the need for justification in my decision to leave the borg in the first place.
i saw the holes, the self preservative techniques, the speculations, the stupid protocols, the 'prophecies' that had outlived their shelf lives, and simply walked away, never really having looked back, always having felt justified because it just didn't feel right to me.
You guys.....LOL
when i surf on this discussion board i feel a lot of anger.
this is totally understandable because a lot of us suffered or still are suffering from their association with the watchtower society.
some of us are victims of child abuse.
Being viewed as balanced is one reason I urged people not to march on Sept 27 as Radical Looking Apostates. We won't be credible if we are seen as Watchtower Hater's we must be seen as opposed to certain policies.
Nano, I doubt many of us here would agree with you on that. I DO agree with you on being balanced. However, I think most of us here don't believe that the WTS is the God's Only Org.
I think the most important thing to remember regarding the march is being peaceful. Please never burst out to violence or profanity. If you do, then the whole world would see the silent lambs as radical apostates. I appreciated both Dateline and Panorama because the message was to change the WTS policy, not tearing down the org itself. The WTS is the abuser.
I feel a little bit wicked for saying this, but if you want to be viewed as victims, you have to play like victims.
I can't post any more now. I've gotta go. Please don't misunderstand me.
when i surf on this discussion board i feel a lot of anger.
this is totally understandable because a lot of us suffered or still are suffering from their association with the watchtower society.
some of us are victims of child abuse.
Indeed, Rado!
It's not going to be easy for the WTS to change even their policies. I heard "a rumor" that they might change their blood policy soon. I think any drastic change like that would cause a lot of problem within the org. The time is different than 1975. I don't think most people would just sit and say, "Whatever the WTS says" anymore.
If they change the policy on the Child Abuse, they know that it's an admition of guilt. Maybe that's why they have been so stubborn on this issue.
when i surf on this discussion board i feel a lot of anger.
this is totally understandable because a lot of us suffered or still are suffering from their association with the watchtower society.
some of us are victims of child abuse.
Oh, Lucy, please calm down. I don't think Dizzy Cat meant to offend anyone here.
I have to agree with DC in some degree. Most of us who post here are ex-jws who really needed and still need to vent out time to time. Maybe that's why some get easily hostile.
But I think we also need to remember that we come here to get support as well. If we don't support and understand eachother, then who will? Most people outside don't even care even if jw children are abused. They just think their parents are nuts. And that's it! Nothing! Because legally they can't do much.
I think we are all abused victims of the WTS spiritually, emotionally and for some of us physically. Where are we going to get warm support? Who's going to understand what we went through? Catholics? I doubt it. Let's be more patient and understanding. We all are different with different opinions. We cannot agree all the time. But that doesn't mean we have to attack those with different thoughts.
DizzyCat, you questioned "the motives" of some posters. Could you explain what you said, please? What kind of "motives" do you think they have?
well, in between my last post on corporate brainwashing an hour or so ago and now, i just managed to get myself a new role within the charity that i work with on a daily basis (http://www.selfdirection.org).
although not full time, i am upto 26hrs p/w.
my job title is enabler and trainer for individuals with severe handicaps and/or severe learning difficulties.
Congrats, Celtic Mark!
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many people on going about their everyday activities whether it's the shopping in town or meeting up with friends someplace don a mask as a disguise against allowing others to see their true feelings on the inside.. what coping masks do you wear, in which situations and do you know why you do this?.
celtic mark - cornwall uk
Hydrating Vitamin Mask: moisturizes and keeps my skin smooth and soft - great after a stressful day.
Cucumber Gel Mask: cools and whitens my skin - an essencial in summer time.
I also massage my face with Beta hydroxy massage cream. Works so well!
we are going to have an extensive article in the new york times this sunday.
there is an early addition that comes out in most cities around on saturday.
i encourage one and all to get your copy and do not miss the important piece of history.
Thank you, hawkaw, for your info.
Sorry for saying this late but
Congratulations to the Not-so-Silent lambs and those* who have been working so hard with them!!!!!
*Those include Bill Bowen, Joe and Barbara Anderson, and many others.
we are going to have an extensive article in the new york times this sunday.
there is an early addition that comes out in most cities around on saturday.
i encourage one and all to get your copy and do not miss the important piece of history.
I just read the article and was surprised how long it was.
However, I didn't see any mention of the fact that those pedos are still going door to door, and that some are even still serving as elders. I also didn't see the website address of the silent lambs. Did I miss those??????
i received this e-mail this morning and have been thinking about it all day.
maybe i shouldn't be posting this since it is an e-mail addressed to me, but i want your opinions.
what i did is i left out the name.
Thank you for sharing, avengers!
sigh......I wonder if he is going to even willing to check out what you told him ( about UN involvement and other things.) We cannot make them (JWs) see, but they have to see for themselves.
I was thinking this morning that what JWs would say when the whole world finally decide to take legal cases against them with, of course, tremendous evidences. Would they say, "We didn't know that. The WTS didn't tell us. The elders didn't tell us"? Then I would say, "No, they didn't but we (ex-JWs) did, and I did. But you didn't listen, but ignore, and persecuted the innocent ones. And you also supported the WTS's actions."
Indeed, they (JWs) are sharing the WTS's sin.
By the way is there a news article about the WTS's UN involvement?
Edited by - sunshineToo on 12 August 2002 0:33:36