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  Jersey City Assembly Hall Memories

  by LexIsFree in

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  so i was watching clips from the annual meeting.

  i must say i do miss the jersey city assembly hall.

  i loved going to that place as a kid.

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  Same here. I loved going there for the opulence, definitely not for the spiritual food.
  
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  Headline: "Islamic Invasion: Europe now scrambles for guns." How true is this?

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a year to a year and a half ago, i would have taken this article at face value and believed it.. now, i realize this article comes from a dubious source.

  world news daily has a die-hard right-wing bias.

  so, in an effort to get real information, i'm asking my european exjw's, is this article all true?

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  I just want to add a little bit of balance here. I submit that it seems too many people are taking sides based on their political ideologies and not using their brains. The political right seems to be pointing out the dangers of uncontrolled mass immigration and the political left is downplaying the dangers. Both sides tend to be extreme in their rebuttals. The right says that Islam is planning on taking over Europe. The left says Islam poses no danger. Both are wrong.

  For one thing, there is no way that Islam could take over Europe even with their tremendous population growth. They don't have the capacity to run things. I won't get into the reasons why but know that all of the wealthy Arab nations are only wealthy because of oil and nothing else.

  But now there is no way that ISIS is not using this unique opportunity to sneak their operatives into Europe. They even admitted as much themselves. The question will be if the European intelligence forces are going to act fast enough to catch them before they carry out some evil deed.

  The political right might be sensationalizing some aspects of this to make a point but I believe in putting the security of the citizens FIRST before the refugees. If one European dies or is raped at the hands of an immigrant, who is guilty? Well who opened the doors?

  Next I believe that this situation is spiraling out of control for several reasons. For one thing, the European media are not allowed to report the crimes of the refugees. The reason is obvious. They don't want to give any fuel to the political right's power as the right claims these immigrants will bring crime and problems to peaceful Europe. But even now that has leaked into the news and now they are reporting that they were told not to report it.

  Others refuse to take action for fear of being labeled a racist. This is making things worse.
  

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11059643/Denis-MacShane-I-was-too-much-of-a-liberal-leftie-and-should-have-done-more-to-investigate-child-abuse.html

  This guy should be put in jail. Forever.

  I was just reading that in Germany there are now over 700 refugees that have vanished without a trace. Where did they go? A colleague of mine said that rumors are spreading inside the camps that Germany is going to start deporting all refugees not from Syria and not vetted so they are leaving for the UK and Sweden where they take just about anybody who can get there.
  

  http://www.thelocal.de/20151026/hundreds-of-refugees-disappearing-from-centres

  Next I want to debunk the myth that the UN is saying 50% of the refugees are women. That is a lie. They are trying to hide the real facts reported by the country's immigration camp registers, since once again that is giving credit to the political right. In total, 75 percent of the refugees are reported to be men, 12 percent women and 13 percent children. The website Factcheck is nothing but a political tool for disinformation. There are no facts there.
  

  http://www.ibtimes.com/european-refugee-crisis-2015-50-asylum-seekers-landing-europe-are-syrian-un-report-2084862

  Only 50% of the refugees are Syrian. The rest are from all over Africa and the Middle East.

  Need to see with your own eyes? Drone footage of refugees pouring into Slovenia. How many women and children do you see?
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBa7pJo-yPg

  But here is the real clincher. In the UN's biased fluff piece they published to discredit the political right by saying that 50% are women, they forgot that their own statistics show that just "34% are women and children." So if you say that there are half as many women as children, that means only 17% are women. And this is exactly what I have been seeing with my own eyes in unedited news footage.
  

  http://www.unhcr.org/562a3bb16.html

  Read it with your own eyes. From the UN;s own site. You would think that they would change their stats to cover up their lies.
  

  To me, it seems like the UN is playing the same game the WTBS plays when it comes to evidence they don't like or forgot they published. Subterfuge, denial, lying.

  All I know is that this is a crisis and misleading the citizens of Europe is not going to help. We need the truth people. We out of all people should be seeking the truth no matter how distasteful it might be to our own bias.
  

  Let's stop playing political sides here and admit the truth. I'm really sick and tired of the lies.
  
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  Faith in the Flood,-- a Dud.

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for the next two weeks, wt will attempt to lay the basis for their imitation "faith" by discussing the "imitate their faith" book, chapter on the flood.

  a golden opportunity to share faith strengthening details with your believing friends.

  do not miss it!.

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  You are only scratching the surface of the FLOOD FAIL. My 6 year old son doesn't believe this fairy tale.
  
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  Executed Jehovah's Witness under Hitler were more Christian than Jdubs

  by suavojr in

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  has anyone noticed how the phraseology of this letter is so far away from todays jw theology and idioms used?

  do you notice what word is missing?

  how would any of us be viewed in the congregations if we were to speak or write this way?

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  So tragic! It is interesting to study how the Nazi party came to rise so fast. Most of you have no idea and are caught in the same feedback loop that gave Hitler his power except that this time it is of the opposite spectrum. Interesting find nonetheless. Thanks
  
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  Why do people kill each other?

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  why do there have to be wars?

  why is there so much hatred?.

  the collective answer i came up with is natalisam, or maybe the correct word should be politics?

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  RELIGION.

  END OF STORY.
  
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  Thinking about converting to Judaism after I leave the JW cult. Any Jews here?

  by tragical in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a question, any savvy jewish lawyer shark types here who would like to go after the throat of this jw cult and send them to hell?

  maybe take them to court over any number of topics and expose them for the evil cult they are?

  pick your choice of child abuse, personal slander, mental cruelty and torture, and thousand of other topics.

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  Just a question, any savvy Jewish lawyer shark types here who would like to go after the throat of this JW cult and send them to hell? Maybe take them to court over any number of topics and expose them for the evil cult they are? Pick your choice of Child abuse, personal slander, mental cruelty and torture, and thousand of other topics.
  
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  Apostasy and Pedophile Scandal are Spreading

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so here's an interesting thing that happened lately.

  if you guys have followed my previous posts, you probably know my mother almost died from severe anemia, decided to take blood transfusions to avoid death and the elders announced the congregation she disassociated.

  last week a "brother" came to visit from a congo about 100 kilometers away.

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  Wow this is awesome! I know of a few in my hall that are definitely fading. One brother is gay and can't hide that anymore but is doing it for his parents. He has his time alone. Then he comes back because he is a genuinely nice guy and he misses everyone. Then he leaves for a few months because of the pressure to not act gay.
  
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  Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is an idea i tested.

  works at both assemblies and conventions.

  i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

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  Has anyone had a chance to try this? I think I will do it at our CA in 2 weeks.
  
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  Confronting Parents About 607 vs 587

  by breezy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just thought i would update you guys since my 1st post last week.i haven't been to the meeting for about 2 weeks now, and maybe have like 1 or 2 hours of service combined within the past 2-3 months.

  i obviously get the love bombing from relatives when they don't see you at the hall for a while.

  " we missed you at the meeting last week.

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  Great thread man! I can sympathize with you on this as I have to face the same crap from my parents. I love them to death but they are ignorant of reality. They can't answer your question because more and more people know that 607 was not the year of Jerusalem's destruction.
  
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  The fade did not work

  by BeautifulMind in

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  2. experiences

  not long after learning ttatt, my hubby and i decided it would be best for us to fade.

  his entire family is in, but not in the same cong.

  we made it to the region convention and one sunday meeting after that.

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  Great story and best luck to you. You made the best decision of your life