their unity is dependent on continuous literature indoctrination/ feeding, regular meetings and the ministry, all wrapped up in a fear of losing friendships cultivated over many years, not to mention family bonds,( emotional ones not the money type!)..and blind trust in the org.....for faders to take action unitedly would need a leap of 'faith' ....individuals are looking towards the doors out...but it takes real courage to come out and take the risk....
westiebilly11
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If all ''faders'' abruptly left the Watchtower and made no effort to hide the reasons why, what affect, if any, do you think it would make on the congregations?
by ThomasCovenant inwhen you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.
if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.
i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.
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This is becoming quite a collectors item!!
by Dis-Member incheck out the price!.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0914675001/ref=tmm_hrd_new_olp_0?ie=utf8&condition=new&sr=&qid=.
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westiebilly11
amazon.co.uk...under £10....free delivery too if Prime member.....worth every penny..eye opening book...
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If all ''faders'' abruptly left the Watchtower and made no effort to hide the reasons why, what affect, if any, do you think it would make on the congregations?
by ThomasCovenant inwhen you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.
if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.
i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.
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westiebilly11
any such fading would be classed as fulfilling prophecy....love of the greater number cooling off....suddenly..!...remaining ones would hold the org even tighter...
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Are the Gospels real history or myth?
by Island Man inthis lecture by dr. richard carrier will definitely give you something to think about (please note that the video is linked to start about half hour into the video which is when the lecture starts):.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=illdt2xhzw0&feature=player_detailpage#t=1659.
if the timing doesn't work just move the play head to the 27:00 mark.
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westiebilly11
herod did not kill thousands of babies...think about it.....bethlehem was a small town.....how many babies would there be ?.....context....
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In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.
by Stand for Pure Worship inso i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?
and it made me think about this forum.
if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.
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westiebilly11
bad enough trying to kid others..but..for sfpw to continue kidding themselves....tut......you owe it to yourself to face facts and not let elderly misguided men...gb...control what you believe.....
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In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.
by Stand for Pure Worship inso i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?
and it made me think about this forum.
if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.
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westiebilly11
from what I've seen and read on this forum I would say that most people here have a healthy ( and honest..) spiritual outlook...from my own personal experience I could ask/raise questions and doubts only when I was having my Bible studies before I was baptised in 1984...but...from that moment on any questioning or doubting was shutdown by those who said we should wait on Jehovah....but I could never understand how when it came to following his 'Chariot'..he seemed to change horses midstream...doctrines have come and gone...prophecies have been dissected and false presumptions made that I can no longer see Jehovah's hand holding the organization. In fact, it was only when I took back my duty to myself to base my life on real truth and not the ramblings of elderly men in need of a cup of cocoa, that I have rebalanced and refocussed my outlook. Raymond Franz's books are a real eyeopener.....yes..there are genuinely nice people in the congregations, yes..they are sincere and mean you no harm,..but....I have learnt that we are responsible for what we choose to believe.....the idealism of a young mind can sometimes come with blinkers...
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New Understanding of this Generation
by pronomono inanother tidbit of information about this generation from the 1/15/2014 study edition under "let your kingdom come - but when?".
they've changed it again.. this generation will not pass away14-16.
what is a third reason for believing that gods kingdom will come soon?.
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westiebilly11
what a load of utter hogwash.....inspired?.....;..more like under the influence ....!...and to think I went along with this nonsense for...30 Years.. .I must have been mad.....they haven't a clue about what they preach or teach ...
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Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.
by The Quiet One ini struggled with this question before i got baptised.
what helped you to overcome any doubts?.
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westiebilly11
do your research sfpw....you will see that the gb did tell their followers that the end was imminent....1975 was a classic case.....and before that they even built a large house to welcome the prophets back in the early 20th century!!!!... other highlighted dates include 1986...peace and security....but there are others as pointed out on this thread....go see for yourself!
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Proof of a Kingdom Hall being sold to a church!
by Sittingstraight1212 init cracks me up if you bring this subject up to a witness , they always try to convince themselves that i'm reading into this!!!.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqwknq31ie&feature=youtube_gdata_player.
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westiebilly11
local south devon plymouth kh was sold to a coptic church....very nice...!
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RNWT: Has anybody else noticed this:
by TD in--not a big screaming deal, but the heading at the top right of the page is wrong here:.
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westiebilly11
..and in the book of Numbers too!!...Ha!!