Posts by westiebilly11

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LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

by Fay Dehr in

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

westiebilly11

If their charity status and associated tax advantages were removed they'd really have a problem......

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They are increasingly appealing to emotion

by cookiemaster in

they always have but lately, they've taken it to a whole new level.

the new convention video about the end, the many videos at conventions and meetings, the new songs, all highly emotionally manipulative.

and they're working.

They have nothing to say anymore. Moving further into this 21st century, prophecy based beliefs are unravelling...all they have left is emotion...and the molding of many to become emotionally dependent on something most are afraid of challenging...a society increasingly consisting of widows....clinging to the hope of the resurrection..Sad.

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Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

by Anders Andersen in

well, the title says it all.

the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

westiebilly11

"...suffer little children.."...how true...

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2018 Convention movie: Jonah.... oh my god it's bad......!

by stuckinarut2 in

so, once again the society has produced a cringe-worthy, spew-inducing piece of "cinema".. i don't recognise this religion anymore...... enjoy this review:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0tovqkfem.

westiebilly11

An excellent and well observed review. Illuminating..

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Withdrawing community support in the congs

by purrpurr in

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i've noticed in the past 10 years that the social support that used to be available in the congs, a shoulder to cry on, elders to help with family/marriage issues these seem to have been purposely withdrawn.

counsel is even heard from the platform that the elders are not there to help people with their problems.. so first in the 80s-90s they take away the congregation get to getters and social events and now they seem to be going one step further in taking away the emotional support for people too.. this will take away an aspect that i'm sure was keeping alot of people in the borg, the community support.

if that's not there and its just about meetings and ministry how many will start to get their emotional support elsewhere?.

westiebilly11

I noticed that in the years I was in, many widowed and widows, and others who had no family in the congregation suffered in silence. The support from just the listening ear so often needed was not there.

Of course, Elders themselves in common with many, have problems and issues and need support too, but that support could often come from mutual support of others. When I was in, and I was coming to terms with quite difficult situations, I found that immersing myself in helping and listening to others often served to help myself too.

In the thirty plus years I was in, I found that Elders, particularly ambitious ones, had little empathy or time for those who needed support. They failed to tend for all the flock, not just those who might be advantageous to their own ambition for recognition.

Such a shame.....

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Another enlightening reason why I don't go to meetings

by joe134cd in

i was informed by my jw father tonight that the reason i don't go to meetings is because "of a guilty conscious".

i just done an eye roll and walked away.

i just can't make this stuff up..

westiebilly11

A better approach by him would be to simply ask you why you don't go. Nice to have an old fashioned father/son chat, without any presumptiousness or judging.....Putting JW stuff aside, he could try and see your perspective on things....and agree to differ .

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Are the 8 superstar Popes planning a purge?

by Sour Grapes in

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there are over 8 million jdubs and i would venture a guess that at least 20% to 30% are pimo.

in my opinion, the kingdom hauls are only half full for two reasons....many have left but the majority are pimo and any little excuse will keep them home and they will report their token ghost hours in service.

all it takes to stay home is being tired, too much school homework or i will go next week, no doubt many have taken part-time jobs and the fear of working the second shift and the guilt of missing meetings is gone.

westiebilly11

There has been so much back and forth, chopping and changing etc of doctrines and prophecy over recent years that I suspect many would comply with any radical or strange requirement.

Hardcore ones often remain' locked in' because they have 'invested' heavily over the years, and risk losing much if they 'withdraw' their investments. . Just as with utility companies where many stay loyal to expensive providers, such hardcore ones are unwilling or unable to look beyond their 'present religious provider'..!

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Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

april 12, 2018. .

westiebilly11

WT is the wound. Not the bandage as they like to think.

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My impressions of the cart witnessing

by Sour Grapes in

i have watched tons of youtube videos of our exjdub friends approaching and talking to the jdub manikins at their carts as they give a great witness to the world by sipping their hot lattes, updating their social media, chit chatting to each other, and the most important thing of getting their time in, counting their hours.. when the jw's see someone approach with a camera they do several things, they will turn their backs on the person, or look at the person with a frown and act like the person isn't even there.

the witlesses refuse to answer simple, clear, and precise questions.

when i was an elder i loved to get into discussions and debates with trinitarians, priest, clergymen and those who were born again.

westiebilly11

Many true words . The whole cart thing seems lacklustre and an exercise in counting time. Few members of the public approach them, and they in turn, appear totally uninterested in the public.Most of the time it seems they're on their mob phone or chatting to each other without any warmth or appeal to the public.

What once was a dynamic and challenging witnessing work with at least some sense of urgency and genuine sincerity by older long time witnesses, has now degenerated to an apathetic futile exercise. In our time, we were encouraged to seek out the public and look for ways to interact with them....as it was held up to be a life saving work with time running out..now it's a take it easy, chill out,watch the clock and go home monotony..

ATMs have more personality.....!

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Older publications.

by Lost in the fog in

it's amazing what you can stumble upon on the internet these days.

i just came across this site.

maybe you already knew about it, but i did not.

westiebilly11

Much prefer older publications. I came across latest copy of the Awake recently....there is not one real photo in it..every picture is a drawing...so trashy and verging on a comic.