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  Review: 2018 "Be Courageous!" convention

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  friday and saturday were for the most part pretty light, not too culty or doctinal, could easily suck in the unsuspecting.

  there were a couple of hypocritical lines that i took note of however.

  at one point the speaker said, "if your boss fires everyone who disagrees with him but promotes everyone who agrees with him, you might be tempted to agree with him just to keep your job.

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  westiebilly11

  So much for real meat, solid food....seems that nowadays it's just milk...and any flavour you want..How times have changed....
  
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  Watchtower UK's Robert Li asks: "Can you lend me £75 million?"

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  anyone got a spare £75 million, for a good cause?.

  go to the uk charity commission accounts for watchtower bible and tract society of great britain: http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/showcharity/registerofcharities/documentlist.aspx?registeredcharitynumber=1077961&subsidiarynumber=0&doctype=accountlist

  now download the accounts for 2017. see page.4 (signed by robert li on p.7, april 2018) .

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  westiebilly11

  I suspect It is their charity status that is propping up the show..remove it and their house of cards will fail...
  
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  LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

  leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

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  westiebilly11

  If their charity status and associated tax advantages were removed they'd really have a problem......
  
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  They are increasingly appealing to emotion

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  they always have but lately, they've taken it to a whole new level.

  the new convention video about the end, the many videos at conventions and meetings, the new songs, all highly emotionally manipulative.

  and they're working.

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  westiebilly11

  They have nothing to say anymore. Moving further into this 21st century, prophecy based beliefs are unravelling...all they have left is emotion...and the molding of many to become emotionally dependent on something most are afraid of challenging...a society increasingly consisting of widows....clinging to the hope of the resurrection..Sad.
  
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  Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  well, the title says it all.

  the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

  unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

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  westiebilly11

  "...suffer little children.."...how true...
  
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  2018 Convention movie: Jonah.... oh my god it's bad......!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, once again the society has produced a cringe-worthy, spew-inducing piece of "cinema".. i don't recognise this religion anymore...... enjoy this review:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f0tovqkfem.

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  westiebilly11

  An excellent and well observed review. Illuminating..
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  Withdrawing community support in the congs

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've noticed in the past 10 years that the social support that used to be available in the congs, a shoulder to cry on, elders to help with family/marriage issues these seem to have been purposely withdrawn.

  counsel is even heard from the platform that the elders are not there to help people with their problems.. so first in the 80s-90s they take away the congregation get to getters and social events and now they seem to be going one step further in taking away the emotional support for people too.. this will take away an aspect that i'm sure was keeping alot of people in the borg, the community support.

  if that's not there and its just about meetings and ministry how many will start to get their emotional support elsewhere?.

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  westiebilly11

  I noticed that in the years I was in, many widowed and widows, and others who had no family in the congregation suffered in silence. The support from just the listening ear so often needed was not there.

  Of course, Elders themselves in common with many, have problems and issues and need support too, but that support could often come from mutual support of others. When I was in, and I was coming to terms with quite difficult situations, I found that immersing myself in helping and listening to others often served to help myself too.

  In the thirty plus years I was in, I found that Elders, particularly ambitious ones, had little empathy or time for those who needed support. They failed to tend for all the flock, not just those who might be advantageous to their own ambition for recognition.

  Such a shame.....
  
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  Another enlightening reason why I don't go to meetings

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was informed by my jw father tonight that the reason i don't go to meetings is because "of a guilty conscious".

  i just done an eye roll and walked away.

  i just can't make this stuff up..

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  westiebilly11

  A better approach by him would be to simply ask you why you don't go. Nice to have an old fashioned father/son chat, without any presumptiousness or judging.....Putting JW stuff aside, he could try and see your perspective on things....and agree to differ .
  
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  Are the 8 superstar Popes planning a purge?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are over 8 million jdubs and i would venture a guess that at least 20% to 30% are pimo.

  in my opinion, the kingdom hauls are only half full for two reasons....many have left but the majority are pimo and any little excuse will keep them home and they will report their token ghost hours in service.

  all it takes to stay home is being tired, too much school homework or i will go next week, no doubt many have taken part-time jobs and the fear of working the second shift and the guilt of missing meetings is gone.

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  westiebilly11

  There has been so much back and forth, chopping and changing etc of doctrines and prophecy over recent years that I suspect many would comply with any radical or strange requirement.

  Hardcore ones often remain' locked in' because they have 'invested' heavily over the years, and risk losing much if they 'withdraw' their investments. . Just as with utility companies where many stay loyal to expensive providers, such hardcore ones are unwilling or unable to look beyond their 'present religious provider'..!
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  Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

  judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

  april 12, 2018. .

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  westiebilly11

  WT is the wound. Not the bandage as they like to think.