My doubts...did technology really exist capable of ensuring safe transport of men to moon back in late 1960's?...where are photos of debris etc left behind on moon surface?....I keep an open mind as I was old enough to have watched it all on TV..! It seemed real, but TV etc was all low tech and so we could all have been fooled...
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Did man really go to the moon?
by atomant inl have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.
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2017 Service Year Report Grand Totals
by Drearyweather in2017 figures released to bethel families worldwide:.
peak publishers: 8,457,107. total baptized: 284,212 .
regular pioneers: 1,225,279 .
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Aux pioneering ( as it was back then..) and Pioneering etc took real effort and planning. It was hard. These days it's virtually standing on street corner with a cart...effortless, but easy to rack up hours and numbers..
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here's "Crisis Of Conscience" chapter on This Generation by Ray Franz
by mind blown in.
http://web.archive.org/web/20031210004130/users.volja.net/izobcenec4/coc/10.pdf.
just saw a youtube clip of mr. franz while he as visiting prauge.....it was some kind of news conference....he said he didn't regret his time with the wts because he would have never been able to experience first hand what he witnessed for himself...... .
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This marvellous book needs to be re released now. Very timely and , to misquote, 'Food at the needed/proper time..'....It has so much relevance in these distorted times.
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Positive Topic - ‘Good Elders’ or Extra Special Kindness shown by elders
by Farmer Jim1 inafter the last topic getting me mad, does anyone have a positive experience of dealing with an elder or a particular favourite elder that was a top bloke?.
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Very much so. I've been fortunate to know several truly kind, helpful, human elders over the years. Sadly, most have since died in those 35 years or so. My first study was with a lovely elder who went out of his way to help me practically and emotionally. He had a young family but still made time for me, a single man , living on my own. At Christmas time he'd invite me round to spend some time with his family and he gave up weekends to repair my car, fix a towbar, and even invited me to go camping with him and his family. He wasn't grooming me, or 'love bombing' me as some do. I shall always remember him fondly. Sadly he died some ten years ago from cancer. Another elder was giving the first talk I ever heard (Noah and the Ark...) and over the years showed me great friendship. Even after I was DF for 'brazen conduct' ( another story..another time..) he gave me a smile when I bravely attended meetings, and would gently pat my shoulder in a welcoming manner. I always remember him saying: "I've eaten enough of this loaf to know it's genuine" with reference to the 'Truth'...He too, has only recently died. Whilst there are some dodgy. fake elders who seek the badge and 'glory', and are elders only through nepotistic networks, whilst keeping their hands clean from menial tasks,, there are some who are truly gems and serve because they really do care. I miss those good ones.
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Crazy statements from JWTalk
by Jehovah lol ini'm sure many of you are aware of the jwtalk site, a message board which has yet to succumb to apostasy (give it time).. some of the forums there are visible to the public, and i've seen some crazy stuff.
here is a sampling:.
"satan is really trying his best to make things worst for the witnesses, knowing the 6,000 years is almost up, from eve's creation!".
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Very silly for them to grasp at transient events and 'obsolete' publications for hope. To say that the 1988 Revelation Book is outdated, yet in the next breath place timescale reliance on the even older 1917 Finished Mystery book is duplicious and just double speak. As the big book says: 'Expectation postponed makes the heart sick'.... Clutching at straws and trying to re write prophecy is a sure recipe for those more intelligent ones to wake and walk......Just as with metal, there is a limit to the number of times it can be twisted before it snaps......
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Where to go for the 'Deep Things'?
by cobweb inas someone who has been out a while, i wondered what publications a jw would turn to now if they want to do serious bible research.
are there any meaty jw publications left?
i haven't heard of the insight books being revised.
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Used to really enjoy the 'deeper things ' of books of yesteryear....somehow made more sense in those early years.... Naievete..
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Could the Watchtower lose tax exemption in US?
by Outahere inlooks like trump wants to take out the scientologists.. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-scientology-tax-exemption_us_5a04dd35e4b05673aa584cab?vpo .
as a cult, could the watchtower be close behind?.
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I don't see why any religious/belief structure should receive tax exemption. Why should govts/general public subsidize beliefs, and forfeit tax revenue?. Perhaps is such tax benefits were withdrawn from these religious corporations then they would have to rely more on donations from their followers and that way they'd be obligated to put them first rather than presume on tax advantages.
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If there was a resurrection in paradise
by Sour Grapes insomething that bothered me even when i was a watchtower company drone was the thought of dying and being resurrected in paradise.
would the resurrected person really be me or just a copy of me?
if god could recreate one of me, he could also recreate five of me.
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I find the issue of memory and recall interesting on this point. How would we know we were ever dead or had died?.. Where were we before we came into existence?..Where did we come from if we are the result of conception by mother and father?....,gee. It's a wonder..!..
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252 Congregations have closed in Germany since 2015
by LevelThePlayingField inthis is a video from down with the tower.
it's excellent.
enjoy.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0lvvy2qurm.
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Two congregations merged into one locally just a few months ago. .(UK).
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Help with a punchline please
by usualusername1 ini have a joke in my comedy routine about never wrapping a gift in my life.
it goes like this..... yesterday my girlfriend said "honey, when you go out shopping can you buy me sellotape?".
sellotape.
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Grotty and disjointed joke in any case. You need to complete your education...sorry..perhaps that should be start your education. Hey, that's a good joke from me..have it for free! Whole v Hole etc...