Hi expat,
Just a suggestion here,,,,this goes into the realm of estate planning. I don't think it would cost too much for a consultation with an atty who specializes in this area. This is an area where do-it-yourself-isn't such a good idea(MHO)
They can show you options for trust funds,or possibly having a co-executor along with your wife. The trust or estate plan would be designed specifically to your wishes (making sure the wts doesnt get any assets thru her)
If I had married a jw,that's what I would do....regards,Tina
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13The WT vultures will NOT feed on my carcass!
by expatbrit inthis is sort of a connected subject to englishman's prior post.
it's a difficult subject, so i'm sorry if it upsets anyone.
but it's been on my mind for a few weeks.. i'm sure that for all of us wt "survivors" (thanks for that term, esmeralda), the idea of our funeral being used as a propagandistic sales pitch for the wt is repugnant.. but, for those of us whose family are still jw's, it's a very real possibility.
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"Upright" JW behaviour vs. "Worl...
by Esmeralda ini'm starting this thread because dedalus made such a good point in his post in the "what.
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i won't quote his whole post here, but here's the link:.
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Hi mole and welcome,
I kinda figured that too many behaved that way- I did know some who(probably because they were not raised JW's,or their job/career modeled acceptable social interaction,or had other family not in the 'trooth' or some other societal exposures ) who were ok in that area tho,,,but not many.... too many were/are socially 'stunted' thanks for the input! regards,tina
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Hiyas HE,
It is good to have a safe place to talk about it,talk can be healing...and what better place than with those who have 'been there done that?' Stuffing down ,denying anger can make one ill,who needs that? :> I'm willing to listen about anything :> I can see your pain and anger, and that's OK.....it's part of the healing process.....Glad your BP is ok now lol...If you want to have a good laff,check out the topic 'Perfect' by Duncan---he has a cute story about 2 characters Un-oh= You Know an old poster,rabid Jw lol
Fred Hall-our very own village idiot
Ay-Eph=AF,brilliant commentator(he's posting here
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Pahr-Kel=Farkel=another brilliant witty poster,here now as well,,,,,(he uses the pic of ALfred E Neuman lol
Check it out,it had me in sttches the first time I read it (((((he)))))))))) Tina -
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intro?
by cecil inmy name is cecil.
as you can imagine i am not posting with my real name.
call it what you want but i am not yet ready to 'jump out of the closet', as we put in my mother-tongue.
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Hi cecil and welcome!!
I'm sorry you had to go thru the df process,even if you feel it was deserved........a hard fact of life regarding marriage is that oftentimes,we marry for the wrong reasons,,,and even if the reasons were 'right'.....couples do grow and change in opposite directions,and are no longer compatible.....many other reasons,so no judgement here...:>
MHO,take your time,thinking it thru sounds wise......you'll know what to do,when the time is right to do it.
Im sure others will share their leaving strategies,I've read some very workable,efficacious ones......... maybe one of them will fit your situation ,you never now...regards,Tina -
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Perfect!
by Duncan indear all,.
i just had to tell you.. i'm at home, kids in bed, wife's out (girls night out) i'm watching liverpool on the telly (no score yet), just finished a curry, drinking lager, reading jw.com.
all at once.. perfect!.
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Hi again Duncan,
I just remembered something. I wanted to ask you,if one of these days,when time allows if you can post you fredhall yk and the land of apostasia again,I think so many will enjoy it as I!! :> Ta,T
I consider it number 1 of the h20 comedy classics :D Thanks Guv -
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by Duncan indear all,.
i just had to tell you.. i'm at home, kids in bed, wife's out (girls night out) i'm watching liverpool on the telly (no score yet), just finished a curry, drinking lager, reading jw.com.
all at once.. perfect!.
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ahhh Sir Duncaloid,life is good,isn't it :> Tina
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"Upright" JW behaviour vs. "Worl...
by Esmeralda ini'm starting this thread because dedalus made such a good point in his post in the "what.
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i won't quote his whole post here, but here's the link:.
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Hi Ded,
I think they're worse in many ways. I think they feel some grandiose sense of entitlement since they have the 'trooth'. And with this attitude,they don't need to abide by normal social standards (read worldly) of respect, courtesy, honesty, and behaviors.
Being in such a closed group, most lack normal healthy social skills,they get out there in the world,and make fools of themselves. I've seen them at funerals laughing inappropriately,the above behaviors in hotels,dining out,etc etc......believe me, if they only knew how they appear to normal folks....just MHO,hugs,Tina -
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by Esmeralda ini'm starting this thread because dedalus made such a good point in his post in the "what.
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i won't quote his whole post here, but here's the link:.
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Hiyas riz,
Great topic here! Does anyone remember the km's and school talks about conducting ourselves at these conventions and hotels? I do. Over and over again,for every convention. Makes it quite obvious that the JW behavior was not all that good,and of course it gave a 'terrible witness'. Always mentioned were people reserving rooms for 2 and 10 showing up to use the room. That Jw's would bring in hotplates and other cooking utensils to these rooms when that was expressly forbiddin by hotel policies. Also mentioned was jw children,unattended by adults,running thru hallways ,yelling,playing disturbing other guests. Jw kids at the hotel pools acting up and unattended,not leaving gratuities for the staff....yes and trashing the facilities.......gosh,I can go on. That's what I heard every year,year after year.....memories,Tina -
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Hi HE,
I do agree with larc,it's not healthy to get stuck in an anger mode,,,,and due to the idiosyncratic nature of people,,the time frame is not the same for all......I don't see as much anger as I see residual pain-2 very different things.
And it's difficult for folks living day to day without family,continually being shunned,grief and loss of other life issues.
They will have to live with that everyday of their lives......yes one moves on,but there will always be that residual emotional pain...hopefully not to such a severe degree,as they work thru their issues...we don't know where everyone is on this road,,,we dont know their circumstances or specific experiences . With that being said,the last thing that is efficacious is blanket condemnation.
College was a great ' moving on 'experience for me as well......I learned a lot about people and myself and the world around me....
I believe many have moved on. The ones I know personally have rich quality fulfilling lives. I don't take comments from this board from those as being 'always angry',that's making a global judgement about their lives and oftentimes untrue,,,,,this might just be the one medium that they feel safe and free to express that ONE aspect of themselves.......kinda like other topic specific forums ...where one can relate to one particular interest,issue,hobby,etc.
So believing this I do get offended because we dont know the whole person,just this aspect.....anyway
Ozzie is quite the kind soul from all the postings and interactions I've viewed :> he seems like he was one of the gentle elders I knew.. and I greatly appreciated ozzielike elders,,,,,
HE,it does get better,the transitional period is rough,but you will get through it,hang in there (((((((((EH hugs to ya,luv,Tina -
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Flower Power
by Carmel ini have a little confession to make!
it's one of those "good news, bad news" thingies!
two years ago i discovered two site on the net where exjw's gathered, h20 and pioneeroutreach.
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Hi Carm,
What a beautiful idea!! I happen to be planning my garden this week....I think I'll make a JW disc patch in honor of all the fine people I've met here!1 cheers,Tina