All they need is to start selling some JW coffee and donuts... JWbucks is open for business!
suavojr
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jw.org store in Rouen, France
by breakfast of champions inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4.
naaaahh.
we're not a business.
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My JW Experiences and Living in No Mans Land
by wizzstick inlots of proper pioneering (90 hours), lots of calls, lots of studies, lots of interest.
enough to make it all interesting.
driving this buzz was the sense that armageddon was imminent.. my father was never a jw, and was very opposed.
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suavojr
Well we can see the positive side to many other religions but it is by their fruits that we know who they are and what is the leadership's obejective.
I have felt the same way you feel and sometimes I rather go back to sleep, BUT I CAN'T! Once your mind has awaken you will never be able to simply not notice the lies and deception. Grace A.K.A mouthy told me how Ray Franz felt after holding all of the JW beleifs, " That if we really did believe in God... as a JW, when we knew the truth about the organization,we would remember Duet 18:22-23" Read this verse.
Now try to answer these questions as you research:
How will paradise be if the WT is in full control?
Can you picture Rutherford, Knorr and Fredd Franz as inmortal spirits ruling over the earth?
If you find out that someone you trust has said half thruths and uses deception when talking to you, would you trust that person? Would you consider that person and intimate friend? A refuge?
Do you see love from the heart among JW's? TRUE LOVE?????
When you commit a sin, What is the reaction from other members? Do they try to help you or simply go to the elders and report you? Is this reaction Christain?
Some food for thought. The more you research the clearer the picture.
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My Letter to Brooklyn about the Parousia that got me disfellowshipped
by cofty inthis is the letter i wrote back in '96 about the parousia.
following the '95 watchtower that disconnected the "generation" from 1914 i began to look carefully at end-time prophecy and soon discovered what i knew were basic errors in what i had been taught.. i was a loyal jw at the time and was still serving as an elder.
i used only watchtower publications in my research.
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suavojr
Cofty: It's exhilarating and terrifying in equal measure.
What a perfect way to express the feeling!!! Cofty, hope you get well soon and may enjoy many more years of freedom.
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Awkward moment at the WT study today
by FadeToBlack inwhen we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?
the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.
for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!
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suavojr
Ha-ha! Same thing happened in my hall, the first question was answered verbatim from the actual WT and no explanation of what it meant. Then two elders were picked for the 2 remaining questions. My wife was pushing me to lift my hand to answer, but all I could say was a NOOOOOO. I was too mad about all the lies and could not answer these questions calmly.
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Forum Policy: Off Topic Comments and Nonsense
by Simon insome people didn't seem to get the message so i'll repeat it to make clear:.
posting off topics comments and general gibberish / nonsense is something i class as spam and will not be tolerated.. any posts found will be removed and if it's repeatedly by the same poster then they will be deleted as well.. thank you for everyone else who uses the forum for proper discussion..
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suavojr
People can't just act civilized! Is this too hard? Thank you Simon for this site!
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Best resignation letter I have ever read
by suavojr inmy fellow friends and colleagues,.
in the spirit of following our company motto of simple, open and integrated; it is withgreat pleasure that i am announcing my resignation from the nielsen company.. after nearly five years of dedicated service as both a field rep and membership rep, i have the upmost appreciation for the opportunity nielsen has given me.
i have been fortunate enough to meet some amazing people and great friends that will truly be missed.
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suavojr
This letter was written today and it goes to show you how similar corporate america resembles the corporation of the Watchtower. The rank and file battling it out in the real world while the GB and others get a free pass.
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Best resignation letter I have ever read
by suavojr inmy fellow friends and colleagues,.
in the spirit of following our company motto of simple, open and integrated; it is withgreat pleasure that i am announcing my resignation from the nielsen company.. after nearly five years of dedicated service as both a field rep and membership rep, i have the upmost appreciation for the opportunity nielsen has given me.
i have been fortunate enough to meet some amazing people and great friends that will truly be missed.
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suavojr
My fellow friends and colleagues,
In the spirit of following our company motto of Simple, Open and Integrated; it is withGREAT pleasure that I am announcing my resignation from The Nielsen Company.
After nearly five years of dedicated service as both a Field Rep and Membership Rep, I have the upmost appreciation for the opportunity Nielsen has given me. I have been fortunate enough to meet some amazing people and great friends that will truly be missed. What will NOT be missed is the recent negative culture that this once great company would have never tolerated. It’s sad that one of Americas most prestigious and accomplished companies would allow the type of deterioration that is now prevalent.
I will now take this opportunity to express my thoughts and concerns that I know are mutually shared by many of you. I was once asked by one of our great leaders, “if things are so bad, and you guys are so miserable, why are you still here?” My answer to Mr. Fred Rogers was, “I have a family, I have a mortgage, I have student loans, I have several financial obligations. Most importantly, I have my pride, my work ethic and belief that nothing will ever be handed to me.” The recent recession taught Nielsen how to run a more efficient and profitable operation. According to Brian West, Nielsen has never performed better! According to Fortune, Money, and Forbes, David Calhoun has never done better either! Sadly all on the backs of employees like myself. Our CEO is worried about cashing in his meager $10,613,699 signing bonus, his deferred compensation of only $18,881,000, along with his 6 million stocks option, plus his fairly average $1,500,000 salary and $2,500,000 bonus, oh, and a car and driver worth an additional $135,000, totaling his compensation package to a measly $78,000,000. All this following a pay raise freeze for the field, along with our discretionary 1% 401K contributions being taken away.
As we are obligated and pressured to work through vacations, holidays, sick days, personal days, all for fear of losing our “extravagant” bonuses. Being pressured to work incredibly long days for the sake of market performance; for the fear of not signing 65% of “BASIC”homes; signing my2.8 homes per week during my personal and sick days; and the latest and greatest our “ NET BASIC RATE” all to avoid being the bottom person on the totem pole. Since the apparent new motivating strategy from management, is to threaten our jobs on a daily basis. It wouldn’t surprise me if this new motivational method was devised through a BPI project along with Black Belts. Far too long we have carried the weight of Nielsen on our shoulders. As a result Field and Membership Reps have become increasingly dissatisfied with the increase in quotas, stagnant and decreased compensation and the lack of overall support from management. All of this at the expense of missing little league games, missing birthdays, missing anniversary’s, skipping family vacations, answering emails and calls 24/7. The balance of life and work has tipped far too much to the side of Nielsen. I am a firm believer that the job of a Field Rep, and Membership Rep do NOT need a union, but I do believe we need a louder voice at the negotiating table. I feel this company is being lead by some incredible talent, however, I also believe this talent is too far removed from the reality of what this job demands TODAY!
Once again, I owe a lot to Nielsen and am very appreciative of everything Nielsen has afforded me over the last five years. I wish Nielsen and all employees the very best in the future. It is now time to truly be Simple, Open and Integrated! Jorge Armando Betancur Membership Representative The Nielsen Company
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The two-tiered Christian system. WHY?!
by DATA-DOG inthe wtbts asserts that the great crowd of [ other sheep ] teaching arose as an answer to the confusion of the rank-and-file, correct?
what confusion?
does anyone know any specifics?
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suavojr
This might help DD
It looks like another Adventist beleif.
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The two-tiered Christian system. WHY?!
by DATA-DOG inthe wtbts asserts that the great crowd of [ other sheep ] teaching arose as an answer to the confusion of the rank-and-file, correct?
what confusion?
does anyone know any specifics?
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suavojr
It was just another way to keep the WT afloat and create momentum
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Gut wrenching situation
by laverite ini have a close relative who has a baby with a terminal medical condition.
he could go at any moment or last a few years.
but the ultimate outcome is that he will die very young.
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suavojr
It is the confirmation that we humans just don't know what the future will bring ( The WT for sure has no clue) and unless God manifests himself in a powerful way, mankind will continue its course to atheism, doubt or we will just find something bigger and better than God.
Life is short and we must try to leave this world a better place than we found it, I wish you the best and don't hesitate to show comfort to those two families.