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  Do you think JW’s are dangerous, if yes why? If not, why?

  by suavojr in

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  2. friends

  personally the jws to me are not dangerous.

  on the other hand, many do think they are in fact a dangerous cult.

  why are they dangerous?.

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  Wow Giordano, it so strange for me to think how you have been out for so long and yet nothing ever happened.

  Giordano Said:

  When you refuse to protect your loved ones because a leader says so you diminish yourself and destroy your family and are no longer worthy of respect. In plain terms this is the only life we have..........no one should throw it away over a false teaching made up by ambitous people.

  When a father tries to save the life of his young child by using blood, you are labeled as the monster They just don't look in a mirror.
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  It is so obviously a lie......now

  by snare&racket in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  once the spell is broken, one you take a deep fresh breath outisde of the watchtower camp, the amazingly obvious realisation becomes clear.... of course this is a lie, of course this is ridiculous!

  you find you have memories of really believing the claims and promises, but it seems like another life, another experience.

  it seems so incredibly false once you leave and it is very difficult to belive you even once accepted it!

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  suavojr

  Great post and comments.

  We have all been fooled but it is nice to be awake.
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  Do you think JW’s are dangerous, if yes why? If not, why?

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  personally the jws to me are not dangerous.

  on the other hand, many do think they are in fact a dangerous cult.

  why are they dangerous?.

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  suavojr

  frazzled UBM

  It breaks my heart to hear this

  This cult is dangerous and I have no more doubts.
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  Midweek Meetings no longer Necessary

  by Tech49 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure we have all seen the recent letter to the boe concerning the change that will take place to the meeting arrangement during the week of the co visit.

  to recap the basics: the meeting that usually contains the cong bible study (book study) and a co talk will be discontinued, publishers are encouraged to use their family worship night that week to cover book study material.. so here is a point that i think has been missed, or not even considered:.

  if that particular meeting is hereby deleted from the schedule, the co and his wife will never ever have to participate in or go to another "book study", or "bible study" night again.

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  suavojr

  The CO will have less time to know the people but it has always been like that unless you attend a smal cong
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  Midweek Meetings no longer Necessary

  by Tech49 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure we have all seen the recent letter to the boe concerning the change that will take place to the meeting arrangement during the week of the co visit.

  to recap the basics: the meeting that usually contains the cong bible study (book study) and a co talk will be discontinued, publishers are encouraged to use their family worship night that week to cover book study material.. so here is a point that i think has been missed, or not even considered:.

  if that particular meeting is hereby deleted from the schedule, the co and his wife will never ever have to participate in or go to another "book study", or "bible study" night again.

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  suavojr

  I would be happy if they got rid of the boring 'cong bible study' but they would find a way to insert some other boring material
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  When a JW's life comes close to its end...

  by suavojr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  talking with a long time elder last night, was very revealing.

  he has been a jw for over 60 years, a man that was incarcerated in cuba in his early 20s and faced great loss and suffering over his beliefs and for being born in a communist country.

  this brave man is now brittle and low-spirited.. while nightfalls on his life, he is made aware the end is near.

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  Black Sheep

  I get what you are saying but some humans are just too gullible and are easily misled by people in authority. If you take the example of the person that I referenced in my OP, I know that although he is not sure why the ‘paradise earth’ is not here yet, the WT regime is better to him than the Castro’s regime.

  We see the parallels between the two systems (Castro & WT) but for this person he thinks he has more liberty among the JW’s and he blesses the WT God for helping him and his family get through his ordeals. It is hard to break through such hard ice.

  Nevertheless is it sad to see the dissonance in his eyes and the sad realization that his life is coming to end. I don’t feel that we should blame people for staying just because they just want to believe.
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  Do you think JW’s are dangerous, if yes why? If not, why?

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  personally the jws to me are not dangerous.

  on the other hand, many do think they are in fact a dangerous cult.

  why are they dangerous?.

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  So can you explain why the Christians from the 1st century were getting killed for what they believed in?

  I know that persecution in itself does not mean God's blessing, but the Christians from that time would be considered dangerous and a sect.

  Am I wrong?
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  When a JW's life comes close to its end...

  by suavojr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  talking with a long time elder last night, was very revealing.

  he has been a jw for over 60 years, a man that was incarcerated in cuba in his early 20s and faced great loss and suffering over his beliefs and for being born in a communist country.

  this brave man is now brittle and low-spirited.. while nightfalls on his life, he is made aware the end is near.

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  LostGeneration said:

  If they lived through and stayed after '75, I have no sympathy for them. They decided to keep following that flavor of false prophet, so they get their just reward.

  It might be true to an extent but many stuck around because they had nothing else. In my OP I am talking about a young man who was isolated in a communist country and did not have access to all the information needed. Not every case is the same.
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  When a JW's life comes close to its end...

  by suavojr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  talking with a long time elder last night, was very revealing.

  he has been a jw for over 60 years, a man that was incarcerated in cuba in his early 20s and faced great loss and suffering over his beliefs and for being born in a communist country.

  this brave man is now brittle and low-spirited.. while nightfalls on his life, he is made aware the end is near.

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  suavojr

  Thanks im stuck in
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  Interview on YouTube with a former Bethelite who ended up homeless

  by RayPublisher in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is one of the most extraordinary interviews i've done on youtube to date and i'm not just saying that.. shawn "zen" dean shared his harrowing story with me of being raised in the jw "truth", going to watchtower farms and then getting his teaching degree only to end up homeless... lots of stories along the way, told with humor, sincerity and a heart full of love.. this is a tender-hearted guy that has had the ass-end of the stick his whole life... that's "the truth"!.

  http://youtu.be/ub1wx3yarf8.

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  suavojr

  Thanks Eric! I am going to enjoy this one driving to work tomorrow morning