Posts by suavojr

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The dumest thing an elder ever said to me..

by new hope and happiness in

conversation with an elder...i said " did you watch due south yesterday" and he said " ive got far more important things to do".

i mean that comment of his got me to thinking and wondering, and made me see he was missing out on living..and i think that comment was the straw that broke this boys faith, and started my i dont want to be a witness anymore.

kind of wierd how a simple question opened my eyes.. and now as i write this i am watching " the rebel" a 1950s western series, and its great and its even better my 9 year old is watching with me..and there is nothing more important than being happy.. .

suavojr

That Ray Franz stated before dying 'how he was really happy, only when he was a JW'. I said to myself, WHAT????? I have to check that statement out and I went to wikipedia, from there to freeminds, JWfacts and CoC.

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Has your trust in charity been shaken lately?

by suavojr in

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excerpt from the wt article, http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003401.

jehovahs witnesses today are also quick to help when disaster strikes.

during the summer of 2001, for instance, torrential storms caused major flooding in houston, texas, u.s.a. in all, 723 homes of witnesses were damaged to some extent, many of them quite badly.

suavojr

So there is no law that forces the WT to show their books in the US? How can this get changed?

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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?

by The Searcher in

how much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?

share your horror story!.

suavojr

Tonight they will let us know how much they are going to send, but I bet it will not be the amount the friends said they were willing to give.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/279700/1/The-Masters-of-Spin-Local-numbers-from-your-Apostate-Account-Servant#.U4YzYNDD8dU

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PO showed up to encourage me. Haven't seen him for two years.

by Wasanelder Once in

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yesterday the po (15 years my junior) pulls up in his truck, finished with service and interested in saying hello.

he shoots the breeze for a few minutes and i show him the apt.

we're remodeling.

suavojr

That was sevn years ago... has the PO ever contacted you again?

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Would Your Family Stone You to Death?

by cofty in

ot law required jews to take the lead in stoning a family member who became apostate.. the watchtower has lamented the fact that the law of the land now forbids them from doing so.. if the law permitted it, as it does in some musim countries, and if the watchtower required it, would your family obey?.

my parents are good people and i believe their love for me is genuine, but i think they would follow orders.. what about yours?.

suavojr

They would stone me to death without remorse or compassion

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Has your trust in charity been shaken lately?

by suavojr in

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excerpt from the wt article, http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003401.

jehovahs witnesses today are also quick to help when disaster strikes.

during the summer of 2001, for instance, torrential storms caused major flooding in houston, texas, u.s.a. in all, 723 homes of witnesses were damaged to some extent, many of them quite badly.

suavojr

Excerpt from the WT article, http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003401

Jehovah’s Witnesses today are also quick to help when disaster strikes. During the summer of 2001, for instance, torrential storms caused major flooding in Houston, Texas, U.S.A. In all, 723 homes of Witnesses were damaged to some extent, many of them quite badly. A disaster relief committee made up of qualified Christian elders was immediately formed to assess individual needs and to allocate relief funds to help the local Witnesses to cope with the situation and repair their homes. Willing volunteers from neighboring congregations performed all the work. One Witness was so appreciative of the help that when she received payment from her insurance company to cover the repairs to her house, she immediately donated the money to the relief fund so that it could help others in need.

When it comes to organized charity, though, we need to be cautious as we evaluate the many appeals we receive. Some charities have high administrative or fund-raising costs, leaving only a small portion of the collected money for the intended purpose. Proverbs 14:15 says: “Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps.” So it is the course of wisdom to examine the facts carefully.

We all know that if you were a born in JW or a hardcore JW, donating money to any cause other than WT’s cause is a big NO, NO. But the question still remains, why should I give money to foundations when someone at the top is benefiting from my hard earned money? To me is all a scam!

I know that Richard Dawkins has a foundation for example, why should I contribute? I am talking out of ignorance, I know! Unfortunately, I just don’t see the value.

What do you guys think? Is it worth donating? Anyone care to share your experiences.

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Has Anyone Heard Whether The New JW Bible Is Liked As Much As The Old One?

by minimus in

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my mom told me that she, my brother and his wife really didn't like this new bible.. when i asked her why, she said they dropped the headings on the top of the pages and that just wasn't as good.. have you heard any pros and cons about the new good book?.

suavojr

Gen 2:7 says a living person??? WoW, talk about a huge change. That is a big verse the JW's use to say we don't have a soul

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Ray Franz - is he REALLY a hero?

by baltar447 in

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on one hand, he's enlightnened many to the internal circle jerk that is the governing body (circa the 70s).. but if there's one reason that can be pointed to for the jws becoming full on cult, it's ray franz.

without him leaving in the manner he did, and stirring the pot, they might not have change the rule (retroatively i might add) on shunning of disassociated ones.

they specifically changed that so they could remove him and eliminate his influence.. his actions single handedly have created the situation where we have to fade, evade, leave marriages, say goodbye to family, just because we don't buy the jw bullsh!t anymore.