Simply fascinating story! When you talk about: "I learned that there had been other Jewish apocalyptic movements and quite a few failed messiahs" What would be a good place for me to learn about these hidden gems the WT hides form us...
suavojr
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Then (1960) and now (2013)
by theron ware ini was raised as a jw from the age of 7. i was df'd for apostasy in 1971 at the age of 23. it has been 42 years since i have had contact with any jehovah's witnesses, including my family.
last year i moved to tucson.
when i read that a district assembly was coming to town, and that it would be at the convention center only minutes from my house, i decided to check it out.
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Unbelievable Experience in Yearbook
by gingerbread ina number of years back i heard a story of a young girl in a congregation ( i have some good friends in this hall ) who had an amazing field service experience.
it was so amazing that it was retold in the 2007 yearbook!.
it is retold in the highlight of the past year section.
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suavojr
In the mid 80's I recall the experience of a sister possesed by a demon after starting to study with the JW's and the demon said that he was going to make her look pregnant.
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Spanish translation is now available
by Doug Mason ina short while ago, i prepared a study on "the watchtower" for july 15, 2013.. .
since then, several people have willingly and freely worked to produce a spanish translation of my study.. it is available at:.
http://www.jwstudies.com/la_verdad_cambia__otra_vez___la_atalaya__15_de_julio_de_2013.pdf .
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suavojr
Thank you!!!!! This will be helpful But are they anointed??lol...
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Howdy From Texas
by TexasEX inmy name may be a bit premature...because i'm actually still active within the org, but i guess you could say i've already "left" in my heart.
i'm just scared to take the first steps, because i don't know any "ex's" in my neck of the woods, and i'm very scared of loosing my family.
i just need someone to talk to.. .
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suavojr
Welcome TexasEX,
Some of us are still active and inside the org, but do not rush things. Why don't you tell us a little bit more of what woke you up, how did you end up here, and where do you want to go?
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jw.org store in Rouen, France
by breakfast of champions inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcvnhohno4.
naaaahh.
we're not a business.
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suavojr
All they need is to start selling some JW coffee and donuts... JWbucks is open for business!
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My JW Experiences and Living in No Mans Land
by wizzstick inlots of proper pioneering (90 hours), lots of calls, lots of studies, lots of interest.
enough to make it all interesting.
driving this buzz was the sense that armageddon was imminent.. my father was never a jw, and was very opposed.
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suavojr
Well we can see the positive side to many other religions but it is by their fruits that we know who they are and what is the leadership's obejective.
I have felt the same way you feel and sometimes I rather go back to sleep, BUT I CAN'T! Once your mind has awaken you will never be able to simply not notice the lies and deception. Grace A.K.A mouthy told me how Ray Franz felt after holding all of the JW beleifs, " That if we really did believe in God... as a JW, when we knew the truth about the organization,we would remember Duet 18:22-23" Read this verse.
Now try to answer these questions as you research:
How will paradise be if the WT is in full control?
Can you picture Rutherford, Knorr and Fredd Franz as inmortal spirits ruling over the earth?
If you find out that someone you trust has said half thruths and uses deception when talking to you, would you trust that person? Would you consider that person and intimate friend? A refuge?
Do you see love from the heart among JW's? TRUE LOVE?????
When you commit a sin, What is the reaction from other members? Do they try to help you or simply go to the elders and report you? Is this reaction Christain?
Some food for thought. The more you research the clearer the picture.
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My Letter to Brooklyn about the Parousia that got me disfellowshipped
by cofty inthis is the letter i wrote back in '96 about the parousia.
following the '95 watchtower that disconnected the "generation" from 1914 i began to look carefully at end-time prophecy and soon discovered what i knew were basic errors in what i had been taught.. i was a loyal jw at the time and was still serving as an elder.
i used only watchtower publications in my research.
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suavojr
Cofty: It's exhilarating and terrifying in equal measure.
What a perfect way to express the feeling!!! Cofty, hope you get well soon and may enjoy many more years of freedom.
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Awkward moment at the WT study today
by FadeToBlack inwhen we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?
the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.
for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!
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suavojr
Ha-ha! Same thing happened in my hall, the first question was answered verbatim from the actual WT and no explanation of what it meant. Then two elders were picked for the 2 remaining questions. My wife was pushing me to lift my hand to answer, but all I could say was a NOOOOOO. I was too mad about all the lies and could not answer these questions calmly.
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Forum Policy: Off Topic Comments and Nonsense
by Simon insome people didn't seem to get the message so i'll repeat it to make clear:.
posting off topics comments and general gibberish / nonsense is something i class as spam and will not be tolerated.. any posts found will be removed and if it's repeatedly by the same poster then they will be deleted as well.. thank you for everyone else who uses the forum for proper discussion..
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suavojr
People can't just act civilized! Is this too hard? Thank you Simon for this site!
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Best resignation letter I have ever read
by suavojr inmy fellow friends and colleagues,.
in the spirit of following our company motto of simple, open and integrated; it is withgreat pleasure that i am announcing my resignation from the nielsen company.. after nearly five years of dedicated service as both a field rep and membership rep, i have the upmost appreciation for the opportunity nielsen has given me.
i have been fortunate enough to meet some amazing people and great friends that will truly be missed.
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suavojr
This letter was written today and it goes to show you how similar corporate america resembles the corporation of the Watchtower. The rank and file battling it out in the real world while the GB and others get a free pass.