Posts by suavojr

here is the situation.... a young 19 year old in our congo had a fallout with his parents because of all the restrictions and jw dogma and moved out of the house last wednesday.. to make the story short, the parents went running to the elders and what was the comfort?.

coe said: i saw that coming!

your son never reached out to get baptized.. then the other elder said: don't worry, you still have one left that will be saved.

suavojr

Snare said:

Best way to make a christian an atheist, make them read the bible.

I will do this and go from here, wish me luck

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Shared some TTATT with my wife and now she wants us to have a weekly personal bible study

by suavojr in

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here is the situation.... a young 19 year old in our congo had a fallout with his parents because of all the restrictions and jw dogma and moved out of the house last wednesday.. to make the story short, the parents went running to the elders and what was the comfort?.

coe said: i saw that coming!

your son never reached out to get baptized.. then the other elder said: don't worry, you still have one left that will be saved.

suavojr

THanks everyone! I will apply the good advise.

Snare: The young 19 year old kid is okay for right now, but the pressure at home was so much that he left the house with no clothes, no cell phone, $1,300 USD (don't know if in cash) stopped going to high school, and has been sleeping in a friends house living room. I want you to know that this kid has never been in any type of problems, EVER. and the elders have the nerve to look down on him and make the parents feel like dirt. My blood boils when I think of this .

The mom is my wife's best friend and it hurts my heart when I see how the WT leaders care more about punishing and finding fault instead of uniting with love.

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Finally

by Old Goat in

http://www.lulu.com/shop/b-w-schulz/a-separate-identity-organizational-identity-among-readers-of-zions-watch-tower-1870-1887/paperback/product-21541658.html.

dr. de vienne tells me there are some problems with ebook formatting and it will be released later.

until they review the advanced copy, it is only available on lulu.com.

suavojr

marking

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Shared some TTATT with my wife and now she wants us to have a weekly personal bible study

by suavojr in

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here is the situation.... a young 19 year old in our congo had a fallout with his parents because of all the restrictions and jw dogma and moved out of the house last wednesday.. to make the story short, the parents went running to the elders and what was the comfort?.

coe said: i saw that coming!

your son never reached out to get baptized.. then the other elder said: don't worry, you still have one left that will be saved.

suavojr

Thanks Kate but my wife is not ready for that level of truth. She also believes in the WT God and I cannot forget she has a cult mentality, so I just want to find some books in the bible that show what followers of Christ really believed and show her the contradictions with the way she worships, etc...

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Shared some TTATT with my wife and now she wants us to have a weekly personal bible study

by suavojr in

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here is the situation.... a young 19 year old in our congo had a fallout with his parents because of all the restrictions and jw dogma and moved out of the house last wednesday.. to make the story short, the parents went running to the elders and what was the comfort?.

coe said: i saw that coming!

your son never reached out to get baptized.. then the other elder said: don't worry, you still have one left that will be saved.

suavojr

good one mauiboy! I will start making notes

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Who will run the "earthly organization" after GB is raptured?

by bruh2012 in

i guess the gb feels after they are raptured that their work is done since the new scrolls will be open by yhwh.. oh wait my bad - it will be by the local elders since they said a few wt studies ago that in so many words you better listen to the elders whether it makes sense or not.. if power and the use of the internet after armaggdon will pretty much be dead since those who operate it will be gone-.

suavojr

I thought that is why they teach the elders they will become Prince

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Shared some TTATT with my wife and now she wants us to have a weekly personal bible study

by suavojr in

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friends

here is the situation.... a young 19 year old in our congo had a fallout with his parents because of all the restrictions and jw dogma and moved out of the house last wednesday.. to make the story short, the parents went running to the elders and what was the comfort?.

coe said: i saw that coming!

your son never reached out to get baptized.. then the other elder said: don't worry, you still have one left that will be saved.

suavojr

Here is the situation...

A young 19 year old in our congo had a fallout with his parents because of all the restrictions and JW dogma and moved out of the house last Wednesday.

To make the story short, the parents went running to the elders and what was the comfort?

COE said: I saw that coming! Your son never reached out to get baptized.

Then the other elder said: Don't worry, you still have one left that will be saved. Your 8 year old is on good track.

They ended the conversation talking about what big J wants from us, how they need to be better parents, how they need to teach that kid a lesson. Etc...

So there you have it folks, the best advise and help these parents needed to help their son come back home.

On Friday night they (the parents and good friends) called us to stop by the house and have dinner with the family. Around 9:30pm the secretary elder showed up unannounced (and was not part of the two elders who spoke with the parents) took the dad outside and started hammering him. My wife and I had to leave at 10pm and guess what? This elder who thinks he is a star in the hands of Jesus proceeded to talk down to the parents.

I am not going to disclose everything because is all the same, parents have an issue with their kids and they get a beating and elders look for a way to punish the naive young ones.

Well yesterday after our boring morning meeting, I took my wife to eat out and went to the mall. I saw this as an opportunity to talk about the problems within the borg and the lack of love. I had a long conversation with my wife on how these elders act like the pharisees.

I don't have time to type our entire afternoon conversation... but out of the blue she asked me before going to sleep, honey why don't we study the bible together, just the bible? This should be fun.

What sections of the bible should we start reading? Any advise?

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Jesus Protect Me From Your Followers

by suavojr in

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i am getting tired of all the so called jesus followers that simply want me dead .

w89 9/1 19 remaining organized for survival into the millennium.

"7 only jehovahs witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the supreme organizer, have any scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by satan the devil.".

suavojr

very true but the kicker is they think they follow Christ through Jehovah