Posts by ab.ortega

Elders letters depository

by ab.ortega in

out of curiousity - is there a site where we can read current letters to bodies of elders, etc.

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ab.ortega

Out of curiousity - is there a site where we can read current letters to bodies of elders, etc.?

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i knew about elders being "deleted" and have commented what a strange and pejorative term that is, but it wasn't until "wtwizard" and "designs" commented on another thread about it that it actually hit home for me.. one cannot step down as an elder with any dignity!

elder's can't quit, with the word "quit" being as in "he quit his job.

" elder's can't resign as in "he resigned as chairman of the board for xyz corp.".

ab.ortega

Indeed. If one steps down, it is the same announcement as if one is being removed. The JW mind is quick at making up reasons for the announcement. I would love to know what was said or concocted about me.... But oh well, I wasn't there to hear if there even was and announcement for me. And I will NEVER be going back. NEVER!

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Song 151

by ab.ortega in

any idea what could have happened to song 151?

what logical reason could they have had to skip a number.

is the number 151 now an evil number accordig to new light?

ab.ortega

These responses are hilariously creative!

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Song 151

by ab.ortega in

any idea what could have happened to song 151?

what logical reason could they have had to skip a number.

is the number 151 now an evil number accordig to new light?

ab.ortega

Any idea what could have happened to song 151? It never came in. What logical reason could they have had to skip a number. Is the number 151 now an evil number accordig to new light? hmmm.. Or maybe there was a 151 but it obviously infringed on a copyright so they pulled it?

Did I miss something, I did a search but found nothing.

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The UN Files - Print Out And Keep For Your Next JW Visitor

by pale.emperor in

i've been researching the wt and the un involvement.

when i was still in and i first seen the un letter online, my cognitive dissonance kicked and i told myself it'll be a fake.

an apostate lie.. and seeing as no jw i've spoken to has ever heard of it, and flatly deny any involvement "no, they wouldn't do that", i decided to do a little "personal study" of my own.

ab.ortega

Nice post.

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Hideout for predator

by ab.ortega in

i read this comment posted on a news site: .

if the police show up at the kingdom hall looking for a sexual predator, the elders will escort them out an emergency exist and tell them to "hide out until the coast is clear.".

is this true, is there printed instructions to support it?

ab.ortega

I read this comment posted on a news site:

If the police show up at the Kingdom Hall looking for a sexual predator, the elders will escort them out an emergency exist and tell them to "hide out until the coast is clear."

Is this true, is there printed instructions to support it? Or is it hearsay?

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WANT IT BOTH WAYS

by Perry in

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friends

when individuals leave the organization for conscience reasons, it is evidence that god is shepherding and protecting the flock by doing a sifting work.

when people leave another christian religion it is evidence that the religion is morally corrupt and unable or unwilling to provide spiritually for their members.

when a christian from another denomination lies, he is acting according to his own disposition being from the father of the lie.

ab.ortega

Thanks for bumping Vanderhoven7. An interesting read.

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Bethel Economy

by sp74bb in

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friends

revelation 6:6 kjv.

6 and i heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.. this prophecy starts to be true in south europe bethels..... according to our sources, bethel families have been asked to reduce their food allowance and even been informed that monthly contribution might not be paid.. meantime, one of these branches is sending millions of € every year as donation to other wt structures, not to mention the 7 digit number on their bank account.

bethel members are not blind ;).