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  Song 151

  by ab.ortega in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any idea what could have happened to song 151?

  what logical reason could they have had to skip a number.

  is the number 151 now an evil number accordig to new light?

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  ab.ortega

  These responses are hilariously creative!
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  Song 151

  by ab.ortega in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any idea what could have happened to song 151?

  what logical reason could they have had to skip a number.

  is the number 151 now an evil number accordig to new light?

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  ab.ortega

  Any idea what could have happened to song 151? It never came in. What logical reason could they have had to skip a number. Is the number 151 now an evil number accordig to new light? hmmm.. Or maybe there was a 151 but it obviously infringed on a copyright so they pulled it?

  Did I miss something, I did a search but found nothing.
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  The UN Files - Print Out And Keep For Your Next JW Visitor

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been researching the wt and the un involvement.

  when i was still in and i first seen the un letter online, my cognitive dissonance kicked and i told myself it'll be a fake.

  an apostate lie.. and seeing as no jw i've spoken to has ever heard of it, and flatly deny any involvement "no, they wouldn't do that", i decided to do a little "personal study" of my own.

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  ab.ortega

  Nice post.
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  Hideout for predator

  by ab.ortega in

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  2. scandals

  i read this comment posted on a news site: .

  if the police show up at the kingdom hall looking for a sexual predator, the elders will escort them out an emergency exist and tell them to "hide out until the coast is clear.".

  is this true, is there printed instructions to support it?

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  ab.ortega

  I read this comment posted on a news site:

  If the police show up at the Kingdom Hall looking for a sexual predator, the elders will escort them out an emergency exist and tell them to "hide out until the coast is clear."

  Is this true, is there printed instructions to support it? Or is it hearsay?
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  JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WANT IT BOTH WAYS

  by Perry in

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  2. friends

  when individuals leave the organization for conscience reasons, it is evidence that god is shepherding and protecting the flock by doing a sifting work.

  when people leave another christian religion it is evidence that the religion is morally corrupt and unable or unwilling to provide spiritually for their members.

  when a christian from another denomination lies, he is acting according to his own disposition being from the father of the lie.

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  ab.ortega

  Thanks for bumping Vanderhoven7. An interesting read.
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  Bethel Economy

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  revelation 6:6 kjv.

  6 and i heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.. this prophecy starts to be true in south europe bethels..... according to our sources, bethel families have been asked to reduce their food allowance and even been informed that monthly contribution might not be paid.. meantime, one of these branches is sending millions of € every year as donation to other wt structures, not to mention the 7 digit number on their bank account.

  bethel members are not blind ;).

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  ab.ortega

  Well how bad was the food? Do you know what they served? sp74bb
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  At a regional convention today....

  by Nobodyspecial in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it really stands out to me just how phoney the bonds of forced brotherhood are.

  the smiles are paper thin when they see each other in hotels.

  the laughs forced.

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  ab.ortega

  Coincidence...

  As I was reading this post...this part of Live High played. I wasn't paying attention but the lyrics just stood out.

  https://youtu.be/trJeelxl4mo?t=1m48s
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  Old Watchtower publications in improved format

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the website avoidjw.org has been working to improve all the older documents.

  right now, all the zion's watch towers from 1880 - 1908 and the watch towers from 1909 to 1920 have been improved drastically.

  i'm currently working on updating pdfs from 1921 to 1949. this updating will include the following features:1. reduced file sizes.2.

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  ab.ortega

  Thanks!
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  Gift giving

  by ab.ortega in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  whenever we had the c/o visit or a special speaker at an assembly, etc.

  i used to give the "brother" or couple a thank you note with some cash.

  also did it with our tour guides at bethel branches.

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  ab.ortega

  Thanks neat blue dog, found very interesting conversations :)

  freddo, I like your idea.
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  Gift giving

  by ab.ortega in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  whenever we had the c/o visit or a special speaker at an assembly, etc.

  i used to give the "brother" or couple a thank you note with some cash.

  also did it with our tour guides at bethel branches.

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  ab.ortega

  Whenever we had the C/O visit or a special speaker at an assembly, etc. I used to give the "brother" or couple a thank you note with some cash. Also did it with our tour guides at Bethel branches. Is this common worlwide? Did you ever do it or see it done?

  I feel like this was somehow expected. Especially after every C/O visit.

  Would like to hear personal thoughts on the topic.