have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?
have you got any views on the information?
i find it worrying at least.
I still have hope that what you are seying happens, but what I see around me indicates that this hole "Vax thing" will not wake the majority up. For example my brother in law who is an elder, admits that Vax damaged his health and few sentences later teach me how important it is to listen what slave is saying. Utter madness. Speaking about an elder: how is that possible that you are still one?
As an elder I suspect I will be getting a lot more funeral details on JW hub from all the vax damage
have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?
have you got any views on the information?
i find it worrying at least.
It can't be explained but as I found out it doesn't need to be explained. My family and others from my circle are aware of harm that these shots are causing, some are even personally experiencing it, but no one has even once asked how can it be that faithful slave told us to trust the science and do something that is harmful. They are still delighted by what slave is doing. To me they behave like people under some sort of hypnosis or simply like mentally ill. So at this point I am not sure if this will change something...
scholar and fisherman, i started this thread because i didn't want to highjack the one in regard to 588/568.. i just wanted to ask if you were both current active jw's that believe the jw's beliefs?.
do y'all believe the gb are the f&ds?
if the answers are no, then why do y'all defend so passionately the date 607?
scholar and fisherman, i started this thread because i didn't want to highjack the one in regard to 588/568.. i just wanted to ask if you were both current active jw's that believe the jw's beliefs?.
do y'all believe the gb are the f&ds?
if the answers are no, then why do y'all defend so passionately the date 607?
Thanks for that. So if I understand you correctly, the holy city of Jerusalem don't exist yet.? I am asking because as 3 last years clearly showed all Christian denominations, JW also, are under strong UN influence. I even thought that ceasing of public ministry by JW in march 2020 is the beginning of 1290 days from Daniel 12:11. But it turned to be false. Now I'm thinking, maybe God has his people in many diffrent religions not only among JW and they will be gathered in the future (Hagai 2:7)?
scholar and fisherman, i started this thread because i didn't want to highjack the one in regard to 588/568.. i just wanted to ask if you were both current active jw's that believe the jw's beliefs?.
do y'all believe the gb are the f&ds?
if the answers are no, then why do y'all defend so passionately the date 607?
Ok Jorden thank you for saying when 42 months will occur. But my question was what in your opinion exactly is Jerusalem? Is Revelation 11:2 referring to literal city? Or is it like JW suggesting some form of God's organization located all over the world? Something else? When it comes to literal city it was already trampled in first century by Roman's as Jeffro said..
it it not easy for me but i would like to share with you my story and my take on what happend and is happening in jw.
for some my view can be unacceptable for others can be useful.
in fact it can be answer to the question: why am i still even bother what's is going on in this obviously corrupt organization?
That would mean, they spend a lot of money to hunt people like me? Insane.. Thanks.
scholar and fisherman, i started this thread because i didn't want to highjack the one in regard to 588/568.. i just wanted to ask if you were both current active jw's that believe the jw's beliefs?.
do y'all believe the gb are the f&ds?
if the answers are no, then why do y'all defend so passionately the date 607?
I think your reasoning is very logical Jorden. May I ask what in your opinion is Jerusalem that will be trampled for 42 months?
it it not easy for me but i would like to share with you my story and my take on what happend and is happening in jw.
for some my view can be unacceptable for others can be useful.
in fact it can be answer to the question: why am i still even bother what's is going on in this obviously corrupt organization?
Oh I forgot the most important thing : yes I do belive the salvation is not thru some organization, it is only thru Jesus. And I do belive that there are many good people in the world that will be saved by God
it it not easy for me but i would like to share with you my story and my take on what happend and is happening in jw.
for some my view can be unacceptable for others can be useful.
in fact it can be answer to the question: why am i still even bother what's is going on in this obviously corrupt organization?
I don't now why but I didn't noticed your replies. Sorry for that. So to reply to you I would say that I am still officially JW although I do not send any reports how much I talk with other people about God. In regard to "waiting for judgment" , I consider myself as guilty of some wrongdoings and pray to God for forgiveness. I mean things like giving away magazines with UN advertising articles
I also would like to ask you guys if you now anything about Fountain Chambers. It seems to be a Law Office... I was contacted thru this forum by them. They apparently want to speak with me.. Have you any clue what they want from me? I only posted once here.
it it not easy for me but i would like to share with you my story and my take on what happend and is happening in jw.
for some my view can be unacceptable for others can be useful.
in fact it can be answer to the question: why am i still even bother what's is going on in this obviously corrupt organization?
Hi there! I'm new here. It it not easy for me but I would like to share with you my story and my take on what happend and is happening in JW. . For some my view can be unacceptable for others can be useful. In fact it can be answer to the question: why am I still even bother what's is going on in this obviously corrupt organization?
Please note that I'm from middle Europe- forgive my wording.
My family is in JW for 4 generations now. I was baptized as teenager in 2003. I was an average publisher for many years, doing everything I was suppose to do. Few years ago in 2018 I became ministerial servant.
Then in 2020 "pandemic" began and I couldn't belive what GB is doing. Their decisions where clearly opposite to what Bible was saying. They tried to scare us although Jesus warned us not to be scared if we see things like that. They closed Kingdom Halls- although Bible says we should gather and together praise God, (doesn't say anything about zoom), and they ceased public ministry! So I began to look for answers. I didn't assume JW are not God's people because they was breaking God's laws, I knew Isrealites where doing the same and still God was patient with them.
I realized that GB is making decisions in favor of UN which is the disgusting beast. So I was wondering: if JW are indeed God's people, that must have been predicted. This what I found:
Matthew 24:45-51 - there was a possibility that faithful slave become unfaithful. If that happens Jesus specifically explained how it happens and what exactly will that slave doing:
"But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’" - slave simply put would lose his patience waiting for the Lord In my opinion exactly that happend in late 60's when GB began to think they are so smart they can calculate when Jesus will come. In their impatience they said: he will come in 1975!
" and he starts to beat his fellow slaves" - it's self explaining, Raymond Franz could be one of the first that got beaten as many of us on this forum.
"and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards" - in 1991 it became obvious when Watchtower jointed as NGO the UN-confirmed drunkards (spiritual drunkenness means political alliances with nations)
"he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites" - in regards to teachings about U, how disgusting it is in God's eyes and then drinking with them slave proved himself to be hipocrite
1 Peter 4: 7 - Judgment always starts with house of God (compare Ezekiel 39:21-23)
Daniel 12:7 at the end of times "dashing to pieces of the power of God's people " was to be expected. It would last for 3,5 times. (compare Luke 21:24, Revelations 11:2 - yes Jerusalem was supposed to be trampled for 3,5 times not 7 times ergo 1914 makes no sense)
Daniel 12:11 and Matthew 24:15 - disgusting thing- the UN is now causing desolation among God's people through GB making decisions in favor of UN and not so much of us- for example my grandparents died both shortly after receiving the shot.
But there is hope!
Daniel 12:10, 12
Ezekiel 34
Isaiah 66:5 hole 65 and 65 is worth reading.
So here I am, waiting for God's judgment on his people. Discovering this forum made me sure that there are many truth-loving people like ours regardless if they bacome disfellowsheped or not (1 Kings 19:18). Please stay strong in faith! Losing faith is what the wicked ones want! Please read Psalm 73- it explains everything what is now happening among God's people better then I can. And stay close to Jehovah - holy is his name even when some people profane it - Ezekiel 36:21-23. And remember those who are sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that are being done in the city.” (Ezekiel 9: 4) - will become mark on their foreheads from God and will survive his great Day.!
Best wishes
