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  DISSOCIATION - Based on Covid 19

  by gavindlt in

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  dear friends,.

  i think you all know me as a person who has always strived, despite my imperfections to only ever wanting to be and remain in the “truth”.

  it is in fact what i so desperately want for my son ashton and my baby girl honey bee, to be lovers of truth and grow up to be a loyal servants of jehovah god and his son, jesus christ.

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  Elder from my congregation suggested that we all have to get vaccinated if goverment requires. It was ridiculous because he was in Hospital Liaison Committee (HLC) and as such he supposedly stands for our bodily self-determination right. I think in the last few years their stupidity is become very obvious:

  "Now in the way that Janʹnes and Jamʹbres opposed Moses, so these also go on opposing the truth. Such men are completely corrupted in mind, disapproved as regards the faith. 9
  

  Nevertheless, they will make no further progress, for their folly will be very plain to all, as it was with those two men.+ 2 Timothy 3:8, 9

  
  
  
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  Did Russell Believe that Jesus Appointed Him as Sole Ruler?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  not according to this book: .

  from this it is clearly seen that the editor and publisher of zion’s watch tower disavowed any claim to being individually, in his person, that “faithful and wise servant.” he never did claim to be such,” (“god’s kingdom of a thousand years has approached,” 1973, p. 346).. .

  but, this contradicts watchtower december 1, 1919, p. 357 where the watchtower states russell did in fact claim to be the faithful and discreet slave.

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  So he did claim to be the slave only not officially but in private. Next entry in my collection of lies. Thanks.
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  Did Russell Believe that Jesus Appointed Him as Sole Ruler?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not according to this book: .

  from this it is clearly seen that the editor and publisher of zion’s watch tower disavowed any claim to being individually, in his person, that “faithful and wise servant.” he never did claim to be such,” (“god’s kingdom of a thousand years has approached,” 1973, p. 346).. .

  but, this contradicts watchtower december 1, 1919, p. 357 where the watchtower states russell did in fact claim to be the faithful and discreet slave.

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  I can't find this quote in watchtower from 1919 p. 357....
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  DISSOCIATION - Based on Covid 19

  by gavindlt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear friends,.

  i think you all know me as a person who has always strived, despite my imperfections to only ever wanting to be and remain in the “truth”.

  it is in fact what i so desperately want for my son ashton and my baby girl honey bee, to be lovers of truth and grow up to be a loyal servants of jehovah god and his son, jesus christ.

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  Quote from jw brochure:

  Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights gives everyone “the right to respect for hisp rivate . . . life.” In Jehovah’s Witnesses of Moscow v. Russia, the European Court of Human Rights( ECHR) stated that “the imposition of medical treatment without the consent of a mentally competent adult patient would interfere with his or her right to physical integrity and impinge on the rights protected under Article 8.” In the same case, the Court went on to explain: “The freedom to accept or refuse specific medical treatment, or to select an alternative form of treatment, is vital to the principles of self-determination and personal autonomy. A competent adult patient is free to decide, for instance, whether or not to undergo surgery or treatment or, by the same token, to have a blood transfusion. However, for this freedom to be meaningful, patients must have the right to make choices that accord with their own views and values."
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  DISSOCIATION - Based on Covid 19

  by gavindlt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear friends,.

  i think you all know me as a person who has always strived, despite my imperfections to only ever wanting to be and remain in the “truth”.

  it is in fact what i so desperately want for my son ashton and my baby girl honey bee, to be lovers of truth and grow up to be a loyal servants of jehovah god and his son, jesus christ.

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  Quote from jw.org: Jehovah’s Witnesses seek nonblood medical management for their health-care needs. In exercising their right to bodily self-determination, they want the best medical treatment for themselves and their children

  So where that self-determination right did go when it comes to forcing people to get the jab? Again, hypocrites....

  https://www.jw.org/en/legal/information-brochures/information/packet-medical-care/
  
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  Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

  by slimboyfat in

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  have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

  have you got any views on the information?

  i find it worrying at least.

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  Thank you for your answer. I think many JW's are like you... Many lost their faith because of bad shepherds. Please, consider this:

  Agnostic people often say that they are very open to the Truth regardless what that Truth is. But someone in your situation need to pretend and lie on daily basis. I don't know if you or anyone finds the Truth this way. That just my opinion. For me GB pushing that experimental treatment was also clear signal that they are on the wrong side. But I decided not to support them and I just faded. Although I struggle oftentimes I still got faith and I'm sure God will bring justice. If you like studying the Bible I recommend Psalm 73 in this regard. Best wishes
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  Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

  by slimboyfat in

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  have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

  have you got any views on the information?

  i find it worrying at least.

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  Sorry for this open question, You naturally don't have to answer
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  Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

  by slimboyfat in

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  have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

  have you got any views on the information?

  i find it worrying at least.

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  I still have hope that what you are seying happens, but what I see around me indicates that this hole "Vax thing" will not wake the majority up. For example my brother in law who is an elder, admits that Vax damaged his health and few sentences later teach me how important it is to listen what slave is saying. Utter madness. Speaking about an elder: how is that possible that you are still one?

  As an elder I suspect I will be getting a lot more funeral details on JW hub from all the vax damage
  

  
  
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  Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

  by slimboyfat in

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  have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

  have you got any views on the information?

  i find it worrying at least.

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  It can't be explained but as I found out it doesn't need to be explained. My family and others from my circle are aware of harm that these shots are causing, some are even personally experiencing it, but no one has even once asked how can it be that faithful slave told us to trust the science and do something that is harmful. They are still delighted by what slave is doing. To me they behave like people under some sort of hypnosis or simply like mentally ill. So at this point I am not sure if this will change something...
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  Scholar and Fisherman

  by Jorden in

  1. watchtower
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  scholar and fisherman, i started this thread because i didn't want to highjack the one in regard to 588/568.. i just wanted to ask if you were both current active jw's that believe the jw's beliefs?.

  do y'all believe the gb are the f&ds?

  if the answers are no, then why do y'all defend so passionately the date 607?

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  In regard to refusing the mark of the beast it doesn't look good, at least for people I know. They trust WHO (they received Vax) they even say that UN and Who are not a bad.l thing When I ask them about the mark they say "we are already controlled by government" or "we are already slaves to the goverment". Two of them are even elders so it's hard to imagine that majority of JW will refuse the mark.