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  Dearest JamesThomas...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
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  the one that is called the holy one of israel, my lord, jaheshua mischajah: christ, of course!

  by means of him, all creation came into being.

  thus, they "arise" in christ.

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  trevor

  AGuest

  Your last two posts were the best you have ever made.
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  ANOTHER KIND OF "PYRAMID INCH"!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  open, if you will, the book of history with me and flip back the dusty pages of time to an earlier world; a more innocent era; a time and place where the innocent intellect is ripe .

  for razzle dazzle.

  there is no internet, alas!

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  trevor

  To a Jehovah’s Witnesses - the only authority is the Watchtower Society. The whole world and it’s people, are a heaving mob of Devil inspired opponents to their cause.

  Particularly educated scholars who have emerged from the cesspit of university. Along with all government, religion and commerce they are shortly to be destroyed for their false beliefs.

  To them the worlds ignorance regarding the correct date of Jerusalem’s fall, is reason enough for their demise.

  Rational thought is the privilege of a free mind.
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  What is a useful fact or information you know, that would help others?

  by free2beme in

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  i am always amazed that every once in awhile someone will tell me something, and i am shocked i did not know this information early or have it more publically known.

  do you know some information like this.

  if you call you credit card companies and say that you had a better offer with another company, for a lower interest rate, they will lower your interest rate to match or maybe even make it lower.

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  You can pick your friends

  You can pick your nose

  But you can't pick your friend's nose
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  Dearest JamesThomas...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the one that is called the holy one of israel, my lord, jaheshua mischajah: christ, of course!

  by means of him, all creation came into being.

  thus, they "arise" in christ.

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  trevor

  Its Sunday and I have returned from a great Saturday night out and just checked the board. I enjoyed the sensible points made by PoppyR & OldSoul

  But - I see AGuest is still droning on in an exercise of self justification. Pages of noisy drivel and self congratulatory hand clapping. Ego driven and self opinionated, special chosen and on a mission, while hiding under the guise of a modest slave!

  Amongst the noise and discord remains the dignified silence of James Thomas, broken occasionally by words of kindness, without malice. Still attempting to emphasise the beauty of silence and contemplation.

  AGuest - Shelby - you could learn so much from a man like that.
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  My Sincere Apology and Condolences...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to the household of god that is israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

  perhaps this apology is long overdue, and hwile it should not only come from me, but from all who took part at whatever point in their lives, i hope it will have some positive impact on those who may need it:.

  on behalf of the watchtower bible and tract society of whoever they are now of whom i was a former member, i apologize.

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  AuldSoul

  Thanks for your comments. They were unexpected but welcome. I bear AGuest no ill will but I am human and sometimes need to speak up.

  As for boxes, I agree. I have a number of boxes that I move between whenever my comfort zone is threatened. It takes great courage to live entirely without illusion and I am not that brave. I have moments of enlightenment, then retreat into a safe box. Still we climb a stair every day!
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  My Sincere Apology and Condolences...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to the household of god that is israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

  perhaps this apology is long overdue, and hwile it should not only come from me, but from all who took part at whatever point in their lives, i hope it will have some positive impact on those who may need it:.

  on behalf of the watchtower bible and tract society of whoever they are now of whom i was a former member, i apologize.

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  LDH

  If you read my post again I think you will find the answer to your question but my reply below may clarify what i was saying. I do realize that as AGuest's friend you will disagree with me, but that's what friends are for.

  AuldSoul

  Maybe Zen masters do both ‘teach and patronize.’ I was just quoting one line which I felt was relevant and seemed, to me at least, to sum up the noise that AGuest makes on many posts.

  The intention was not to be educational and patronizing but downright critical of AGuest's apparent friendly approach, while at the same time attempting to discredit other posters. I have fresh in my mind her hostile and uncalled for attack, in the post ‘Dearest James Thomas.’

  This coupled with the content of various posts has left me under whelmed. I gain the impression that, like most slaves, Dearest Shelby is still in chains.

  Trevor

  A Free Man
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  My Sincere Apology and Condolences...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to the household of god that is israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

  perhaps this apology is long overdue, and hwile it should not only come from me, but from all who took part at whatever point in their lives, i hope it will have some positive impact on those who may need it:.

  on behalf of the watchtower bible and tract society of whoever they are now of whom i was a former member, i apologize.

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  Aguest

  What you say is true, it is not God that misleads us it is people. People who think they have been chosen as slaves and servants, somehow commissioned to spread the word, or in your case many thousands of words, on behalf of God. People seek God in their own way, they do not need educating or patronising. Calling everyone dear and wishing them peace does not disguise your intent.

  The Zen masters talk of listening to the sound of one hand. This eludes to the soundless sound that leads to enlightenment.

  Your posts give the impression that you are clapping loudly with both hands in an attempt to gain attention. Perhaps you have mistaken the noise for applause.
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  My Sincere Apology and Condolences...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to the household of god that is israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

  perhaps this apology is long overdue, and hwile it should not only come from me, but from all who took part at whatever point in their lives, i hope it will have some positive impact on those who may need it:.

  on behalf of the watchtower bible and tract society of whoever they are now of whom i was a former member, i apologize.

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  AGuest

  Your Posts give the impression that you have joined a different army but still enjoy marching to the drums and going to war.

  I could be wrong but then I don’t claim to be led by your infallible deity
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  There actually is ONE thing I can thank the WTS for.............

  by Frannie Banannie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i finally figured out that there is one thing i can thank them for.

  you see, because they are so rigid, dogmatic and unmerciful in their teachings, doctrines and practices, when i finally realized they are wrong, it made me begin to examine the alleged holy scriptures authored by religious leaders from the past and to finally see that it's all man-made.

  when i believed strongly in bible writings, my view of reality was skewed effectively as a consequence.

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  Yes - Frannie

  What you say is very true. To have lived in and believed the Watchtower Societies world and all it’s teaching to find out it was all an illusion is very liberating. Suddenly you realize that any thing you have believed in could also be an illusion and probably is.

  Piece by piece you examine everything, taking nothing on faith but by careful observation, driven by an honest search for truth, going where that leads. Another world starts to appear, awesome and bright and so different from the one we left behind.
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  Dearest JamesThomas...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the one that is called the holy one of israel, my lord, jaheshua mischajah: christ, of course!

  by means of him, all creation came into being.

  thus, they "arise" in christ.

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  trevor

  Confession

  You make some good points.

  It is always good to hear that another person has broken free of the grip of the Watchtower Society, to start enjoying the freedom to explore deeper things without the hindrance of dogma and creed.