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  "Apostates " how honest are we?

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  as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

  i was involved in a number of jc.

  some i dealt with are good friends now.

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  Thanks NN. When someone is using shit as a proof it is always very convincing ;)

  StanLD m666 xjw Birmingham? Am I right? I am not sure. I meant the island in general. I am from the north. Aye, lad.
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  Im sick of my life

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  sorry but i really feel like i need to rant right now.

  recently my dad was made an elder so my family has been doing a lot more "theocratic" activities lately.

  every morning i wake up and put on my itchy dress and stupid makeup and heels and then pretend that i love what i'm doing and that everybody is my friend when in reality i feel horrible and all the other teenage girls at my hall hate me for some reason.

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  So sorry. Please, go to see a specialist. You sound like having serious depression. It is far more than "spiritual" problem. Being in your situation doesn't help. But if you have right treatment then you really can move on. If you don't sort out your emotions first, no choice is going to be good.

  Do take care after yourself.
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  "Apostates " how honest are we?

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  1. jw
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  as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

  i was involved in a number of jc.

  some i dealt with are good friends now.

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  Thank you again. SlimBoyFat and BB you exactly know what I meant.

  Hadriel. You right jc is against bible standards. It is orgs policy and disturbing one.

  Someone asked for sources. Sorry but no. I am in for now. I hope you understand. B
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  "Apostates " how honest are we?

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  1. jw
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  as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

  i was involved in a number of jc.

  some i dealt with are good friends now.

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  GodZoo. Thanks. I agree with your points on arc etc. The post title is correct. I know they ways. I don't accept them. I don't want to be like them.

  I will check all sources. Thanks to all.
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  "Apostates " how honest are we?

  by closed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

  i was involved in a number of jc.

  some i dealt with are good friends now.

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  Cognac. Apologies accepted. Don't worry. I know my pos may draw all bad feelings out. I am sorry it made you feel that way.
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  "Apostates " how honest are we?

  by closed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

  i was involved in a number of jc.

  some i dealt with are good friends now.

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  By the way. I don't agree with jc policy now. But it IS my past. I did what I did. I was wrong but my motives were good.I was doing my best. As many of us here. I understand people like Cognac but you can't live like that. We are not here to cover one another in sick, I hope. Just maybe someones experience may help to find some joy in life.
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  "Apostates " how honest are we?

  by closed in

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  as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

  i was involved in a number of jc.

  some i dealt with are good friends now.

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  Cognac. If it helps to vomit just do it. I see you are very frustrated for reasons I don't know. You completely misunderstood my point. But it's ok with me. All reactions just proof that we all are different. I was happy in. I am working on being happy on my way out.

  If you - Cognac-have already vomited I hope it feel better.
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  "Apostates " how honest are we?

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  1. jw
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  as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

  i was involved in a number of jc.

  some i dealt with are good friends now.

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  Thanks. I completely agree with you. Nugget. I expect people being "all sorts" outside org as there are all sorts in it. I just wanted to explain that it was bad to listen to lies in and to decide to go out to very similar environment. Just a technicality. Sorry Cognac I disturb your feelings. But situations I was involved with had nothing to do with abuse or lies etc. Belive or not I /we wanted to help - gullible aren't we;)

  I called myself an apostate to stress that I don't agree with many orgs actions and policies. Yea. I am a simple, blunt bloke outside.
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  "Apostates " how honest are we?

  by closed in

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  as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

  i was involved in a number of jc.

  some i dealt with are good friends now.

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  As I mentioned in another post I used to serve as an elder for 2 decades. I was involved in a number of JC. Some I dealt with are good friends now. But some became apostates😁 And my experience with them made me resentful. Reasons:

  A woman cheated on her husband. She, first time, got involved with 10 years younger guy. After couple of years she - beg your forgiveness-screwed with a bloke she hardly knew in a park. Then she joined one of happy clappings and started to write to newspapers all rubbish. She gave "description " of JC. It was all lie. I know it as I Was on it. She gave all false info on reaction of her husband and children. She stated that husband robbed her although he bought her flat she wanted and gave her good lump of cash. I had 2 more situations when dfs went public to some degree. But there have never been honest picture.

  Conclusion: no doubt the Orgs methods of dispensing information are, well, very questionable. But the way some fellow "apostates" omit facts or just twist them slowed down my fading process.

  I don't want to offend but it is my experience.
  
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  Slightly different approach - JW my tradition

  by closed in

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  hello everybody :) i have been visiting this forum for some time.

  i noticed that many can't really free from the past in the org despite many years outside of jw.

  i was awaken with a bang.

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  Thank you for all comments. ToesUp you right. I don't blame or judge people. Many have all reasons to feel deeply hurt. I am really sorry for them. I try to do what Crazyguy was talking about. I study and talk with my family hoping they will make wise decisions. I may be overly cautious but I had as an elder some strange experiences but it will be another topic.

  Thanks a lot again EVERYBODY for all comments.