DB and pbrow. Thank you. I appreciate your comments. Yes, as JW are high cost movement it takes effort to get in and stay. And even more effort to get out. That's why good plan and well prepared actions are necessary. I know it is hard but being hysterical and rushing without an objective causes more harm than good. It is, obviously, my personal opinion / experience.
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by closed inhello everybody :) i have been visiting this forum for some time.
i noticed that many can't really free from the past in the org despite many years outside of jw.
i was awaken with a bang.
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Hi Stan. I should have posted it on another thread. Thanks for photo ( the car , the hall and you). I checked the link. It is interesting.
Rebel. I think I see your point. In my view I am apostate because it is - according to Greek - someone standing outside or on the side. I am not in the center of the action anymore. I am watching from the side:) and wandering what is going to happen yet.
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Thanks NN. When someone is using shit as a proof it is always very convincing ;)
StanLD m666 xjw Birmingham? Am I right? I am not sure. I meant the island in general. I am from the north. Aye, lad.
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by BlackWolf insorry but i really feel like i need to rant right now.
recently my dad was made an elder so my family has been doing a lot more "theocratic" activities lately.
every morning i wake up and put on my itchy dress and stupid makeup and heels and then pretend that i love what i'm doing and that everybody is my friend when in reality i feel horrible and all the other teenage girls at my hall hate me for some reason.
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So sorry. Please, go to see a specialist. You sound like having serious depression. It is far more than "spiritual" problem. Being in your situation doesn't help. But if you have right treatment then you really can move on. If you don't sort out your emotions first, no choice is going to be good.
Do take care after yourself.
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Thank you again. SlimBoyFat and BB you exactly know what I meant.
Hadriel. You right jc is against bible standards. It is orgs policy and disturbing one.
Someone asked for sources. Sorry but no. I am in for now. I hope you understand. B
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GodZoo. Thanks. I agree with your points on arc etc. The post title is correct. I know they ways. I don't accept them. I don't want to be like them.
I will check all sources. Thanks to all.
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Cognac. Apologies accepted. Don't worry. I know my pos may draw all bad feelings out. I am sorry it made you feel that way. -
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By the way. I don't agree with jc policy now. But it IS my past. I did what I did. I was wrong but my motives were good.I was doing my best. As many of us here. I understand people like Cognac but you can't live like that. We are not here to cover one another in sick, I hope. Just maybe someones experience may help to find some joy in life.
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Cognac. If it helps to vomit just do it. I see you are very frustrated for reasons I don't know. You completely misunderstood my point. But it's ok with me. All reactions just proof that we all are different. I was happy in. I am working on being happy on my way out.
If you - Cognac-have already vomited I hope it feel better.
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Thanks. I completely agree with you. Nugget. I expect people being "all sorts" outside org as there are all sorts in it. I just wanted to explain that it was bad to listen to lies in and to decide to go out to very similar environment. Just a technicality. Sorry Cognac I disturb your feelings. But situations I was involved with had nothing to do with abuse or lies etc. Belive or not I /we wanted to help - gullible aren't we;)
I called myself an apostate to stress that I don't agree with many orgs actions and policies. Yea. I am a simple, blunt bloke outside.