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  Armageddon 50th Anniversary

  by apostrate in

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  well, it's been 50 years since armageddon occurred.. seems to me that things haven't really changed all that much.

  is it just me or does anyone else seem to think that things have actually got worse??

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  Qualifications for being in the 144,000 . . . the "anointed" foot-step followers of Jesus Christ, according to the Watchtower Society:

  Revelation 14:1-5 (New Century Version)

  Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb standing on Mount Zion.[a] With him were one hundred forty-four thousand people who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the noise of flooding water and like the sound of loud thunder. The sound I heard was like people playing harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the new song except the one hundred forty-four thousand who had been bought from the earth. 4 These are the ones who did not do sinful things with women, because they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb every place he goes. These one hundred forty-four thousand were bought from among the people of the earth as people to be offered to God and the Lamb. 5 THEY WERE NOT GUILTY OF TELLING LIES; THEY ARE WITHOUT FAULT.

  . . . Yes, "NOT GUILTY OF TELLING LIES," LIES, AND MORE LIES . . . like the false teaching & wicked prediction of 1975, clearly publicly spoken by Vice-President Frederick W. Franz, that stumbled so many . . . for some 50 years now! -- See Revelation 21:8; Revelation 22:15.

  Watchtower Society says nowadays:

  "...Imagine those foolish, overzealous JWs . . . selling their homes, running ahead of the F&D Slave and all . . . tisk, tisk, tisk."

  See Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwvi2Jpd9KU

  
  

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  Armageddon 50th Anniversary

  by apostrate in

  1. social
  2. humour

  well, it's been 50 years since armageddon occurred.. seems to me that things haven't really changed all that much.

  is it just me or does anyone else seem to think that things have actually got worse??

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  What Really Happened (Back Then) With The False Teaching & Prediction Of 1975?

  
  Hi everyone,

  The video that appears immediately below (entitled "1975") was released September 12th, 2022 by Rockin To A New Beat on YouTube.
  
  PLEASE NOTE: The following two (2) videos (as shown below) should prove to be quite helpful to any who want to know more about the "inside details" and massive coverup concerning the insidious teaching, false teaching & prediction of 1975 among Jehovah's Witnesses . . . as told by those who lived through those years as baptized, dedicated active adult members of the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization.
  
  First Let's Consider One Gigantic, Cold Indisputable Fact About The False Prediction & Teaching Of 1975, As Taught By The Watchtower Society's Leadership In The Mid-1960s Thru 1975 Or So . . . They Did It!!!
  
  

  Please listen to the following video copy of an actual talk by then, V. P. Frederick W. Franz, shown below. Talk appears about 3 1/2 minutes into the video. In it he clearly states for record to this massive public audience among other things that the date of September 5th, 1975, precisely at "Sundown" will bring (1) The "Great Tribulation," (2) The destruction of "Babylon The Great" [World Empire Of False Religion"], (3) the full "annihilation" of all political nations of the earth [Armageddon]," (4) The Abyssing Of Satan the Devil & wicked demon associates, and (5) the beginning & start of the 1,000-year reign of peace & righteousness of Jesus Christ over earth . . . "all to occur BEFORE the end of the year of 1975."

  
  
  Don't believe it . . . Have a listen, carefully.
  
  Here is the link to the video. Talk appears about 3 1/2 minutes into this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59b33o-KgdE
  
  See also this additional link to the same speech with insightful information on this tragic situation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYdpLeODjBw
  
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  How Can The Governing Body Be Considered The "Channel Of Communication" From Jehovah Without Being Inspired . . . How Is That Possible???

  by AbaddonProvesIt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  video # 1,246: how can the governing body be considered the "channel of communication" from jehovah without being inspired .

  the collapse of governing body member jeffrey winder's arguments: a critical look at a jehovah's witness excuse [by watchtower examination, winston gillum - montego bay, jamaica].

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses believe & teach millions upon millions of jehovah's witnesses world wide that they as a body, are not inspired or infallible.

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  xJW Video: Does The Governing Body Speak For God?
  (By JW Thoughts)

  
  
  The Jehovah's Witnesses have a long history of making changes to their core doctrine and calling it new light. Well it's not actually the rank and file members of the organization but only a self appointed group of men. This Governing Body makes all the rules, sets polic and controls the finances of Watchtower with no one able to question there power. How did they pull this off? To answer that you have to go back to the beginning, to Charles Taze Russell and Joseph Rutherford. -- Written by JW Thoughts.
  
  This video was released 5 days ago by JW Thoughts on YouTube.
  
  Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-ubf1PtXvw
  
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  How Can The Governing Body Be Considered The "Channel Of Communication" From Jehovah Without Being Inspired . . . How Is That Possible???

  by AbaddonProvesIt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  video # 1,246: how can the governing body be considered the "channel of communication" from jehovah without being inspired .

  the collapse of governing body member jeffrey winder's arguments: a critical look at a jehovah's witness excuse [by watchtower examination, winston gillum - montego bay, jamaica].

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses believe & teach millions upon millions of jehovah's witnesses world wide that they as a body, are not inspired or infallible.

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  The Governing Body Is Not Guided By God!
  (They Say They Are Not Inspired By God, But Are Especially "Guided" By God's Holy Spirit???)
  (By Jerome)

  
  
  Though they claim to be the faithful and discreet slave appointed by Jesus to help all Christians to arrive at the correct understanding of the Bible, the governing body admits that they are not inspired by God. They do, however, claimed to be led by the holy spirit. But what's the difference between being inspired and being led by the holy spirit? Are they being helped by a divine source? If the governing body is influenced by God’s holy spirit, what accounts for the errors in doctrinal understanding and organizational direction? Are they saying that God’s holy spirit is capable of making mistakes? When they get it wrong is that because God or Jesus gave them the wrong information?
  
  This video was released 2 days ago by Jerome on YouTube.
  
  Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAMI_AFRM5M
  
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  Is "Cessationism" A Correct Bible Understanding & Teaching . . . What Do You Say? (See 1 Corinthians 13:8-12)

  by AbaddonProvesIt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is "cessationism" a correct bible understanding & teaching .

  (see 1st corinthians 13:8-12).

  the watchtower society believes and teaches "cessationism.

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  Is "Cessationism" A Correct Bible Understanding & Teaching . . . What Do You Say?
  (See 1st Corinthians 13:8-12)

  
  
  The Watchtower Society believes and teaches "Cessationism."
  
  In short, a simplified definition of the term: Cessationism is the view that the “miracle gifts” of tongues and healing have ceased—that the end of the apostolic age brought about a cessation of the miracles associated with that age. Most cessationists believe that, while God can and still does perform miracles today, the Holy Spirit no longer uses individuals to perform miraculous signs.
  
  The Watchtower Society's above erroneous viewpoint is mistakenly based upon, SINGULARLY, a faulty misinterpretation of the following bible text:
  
  1 Corinthians 13th chapter:
  
  8 Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, THE PARTIAL WILL PASS AWAY. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.
  
  For more information on this topic, please this link: viewtopic.php?t=491
  
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  How Can The Governing Body Be Considered The "Channel Of Communication" From Jehovah Without Being Inspired . . . How Is That Possible???

  by AbaddonProvesIt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  video # 1,246: how can the governing body be considered the "channel of communication" from jehovah without being inspired .

  the collapse of governing body member jeffrey winder's arguments: a critical look at a jehovah's witness excuse [by watchtower examination, winston gillum - montego bay, jamaica].

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses believe & teach millions upon millions of jehovah's witnesses world wide that they as a body, are not inspired or infallible.

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  (The following information on the JW baptismal questions was written exactly 40 years ago by the Watchtower Society, in the June 1st, 1985 Watchtower magazine.)
  
  
  

  WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING "SPIRITED-DIRECTED" AND BEING "INSPIRED"?

  
  
  Baptismal Questions for all prospective Jehovah's Witnesses, 1985:
  
  Question #2 -- Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? -- See June 1st, 1985 Watchtower Magazine page 30, par. 3, 4.
  
  Do you personally remember this particular question being presented to all prospective baptismal candidates at the conventions of Jehovah's Witnesses?
  
  As mentioned above, Jehovah's Witnesses have been taught (by the Watchtower Society) a special "word" for what they claim to be. Now please remember this special word. It is called being "SPIRIT DIRECTED" but not "inspired" of God...Remember? So then, we informed Jehovah's Witnesses cleverly say we are a "spirit-directed" people. The "anointed" are "spirit-directed." Yes, the organization is "spirit-directed" -- but not, inspired. But really, what's the difference?
  
  For more information on this topic, see link: viewtopic.php?p=5779#p5779
  
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  How Can The Governing Body Be Considered The "Channel Of Communication" From Jehovah Without Being Inspired . . . How Is That Possible???

  by AbaddonProvesIt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  video # 1,246: how can the governing body be considered the "channel of communication" from jehovah without being inspired .

  the collapse of governing body member jeffrey winder's arguments: a critical look at a jehovah's witness excuse [by watchtower examination, winston gillum - montego bay, jamaica].

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses believe & teach millions upon millions of jehovah's witnesses world wide that they as a body, are not inspired or infallible.

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  Zechariah 13:4-6 ESV

  4 “On that day every prophet will be ashamed of his vision when he prophesies. He will not put on a hairy cloak in order to deceive, 5 but he will say, ‘I am no prophet, I am a worker of the soil, for a man sold me in my youth.’[a] 6 And if one asks him, ‘What are these wounds on your back?’[b] he will say, ‘The wounds I received in the house of my friends.’

  [See also Isaiah 55:10, 11; Jeremiah 1:12; Matthew 5:18; Galatians 6:7]

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  How Can The Governing Body Be Considered The "Channel Of Communication" From Jehovah Without Being Inspired . . . How Is That Possible???

  by AbaddonProvesIt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  video # 1,246: how can the governing body be considered the "channel of communication" from jehovah without being inspired .

  the collapse of governing body member jeffrey winder's arguments: a critical look at a jehovah's witness excuse [by watchtower examination, winston gillum - montego bay, jamaica].

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses believe & teach millions upon millions of jehovah's witnesses world wide that they as a body, are not inspired or infallible.

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  Video # 1,221 - Blasphemy + Hypocrisy = Zero Integrity!
  [See October 1st, 1994 Watchtower Pg. 8: Governing Body Is "Channel Of Communication"]
  (By Watchtower Examination)

  
  
  Every time a speaker from the Watchtower opens his mouth, he is condemned by previous statements made or by official doctrinal positions. They are therefore unable to speak to any subject of righteousness with integrity.
  
  This video was released 1 year ago by Watchtower Examination on YouTube.
  
  Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRGkgB2_2rI&t=302s
  
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  How Can The Governing Body Be Considered The "Channel Of Communication" From Jehovah Without Being Inspired . . . How Is That Possible???

  by AbaddonProvesIt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  video # 1,246: how can the governing body be considered the "channel of communication" from jehovah without being inspired .

  the collapse of governing body member jeffrey winder's arguments: a critical look at a jehovah's witness excuse [by watchtower examination, winston gillum - montego bay, jamaica].

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses believe & teach millions upon millions of jehovah's witnesses world wide that they as a body, are not inspired or infallible.

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  KEEP IN CLOSE TOUCH WITH GOD'S CHANNEL!
  (Christian Channel of Communication -- The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom—1955)

  
  
  See May 15th, 1955 Watchtower Magazine pages 314-315, paragraphs 33,34.
  
  Link to article: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1955365
  
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  33, 34. (a) What is the legal servant used by the anointed remnant today? (b) What is an official mouthpiece of the “faithful and discreet slave” class? (c) Who should keep in close touch with God’s channel today, and why?
  
  33 The evidences, therefore, are overwhelming that the anointed Christian remnant among Jehovah’s witnesses today comprise the collective channel of communication. An abundance of additional detailed facts is being published in the series of articles in The Watchtower on the history of Jehovah’s witnesses. There are about 17,000 of these anointed ones still left in the earth, with a governing body of them residing at Bethel in Brooklyn, New York. Along with them there are over 560,000 “other sheep” companion associates. This small “faithful and discreet slave” class of anointed ones, as they are designated, have a legal servant known as the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, organized in 1884, which they use to represent them.
  
  34 An official mouthpiece for this “slave” class is the Watchtower magazine, now in its seventy-sixth year of publication. This magazine makes no claim of inspiration but is guided by the inspired principles and prophecies recorded in the sacred Bible due for progressive fulfillment today. By means of this singular channel of reliable spiritual guidance all sincere, honest persons who love righteousness are being directed toward the “perfect day” in the post-Armageddon new world. You are invited to advance along with the anointed remnant from one God-directed progressive spiritual position to another in fulfillment of the promise: “The path of the righteous is as the dawning light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.”—Prov. 4:18, AS.
  
  See that you do not implore him not to speak. For if they did not escape who implored him not to give divine warning upon earth, much more shall we not if we turn away from him who speaks from the heavens. At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, saying: “Yet once more I will set not only the earth but also the heaven in commotion.”—Heb. 12:25, 26, NW.
  
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  How Can The Governing Body Be Considered The "Channel Of Communication" From Jehovah Without Being Inspired . . . How Is That Possible???

  by AbaddonProvesIt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  video # 1,246: how can the governing body be considered the "channel of communication" from jehovah without being inspired .

  the collapse of governing body member jeffrey winder's arguments: a critical look at a jehovah's witness excuse [by watchtower examination, winston gillum - montego bay, jamaica].

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses believe & teach millions upon millions of jehovah's witnesses world wide that they as a body, are not inspired or infallible.

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  Video # 1,246: How Can The Governing Body Be Considered The "Channel Of Communication"
  From Jehovah Without Being Inspired . . . How Is That Possible???
  The Collapse of Governing Body Member Jeffrey Winder's Arguments: A Critical Look at a Jehovah's Witness Excuse
  [By Watchtower Examination, Winston Gillum - Montego Bay, Jamaica]

  
  
  The Governing Body Of Jehovah's Witnesses believe & teach millions upon millions of Jehovah's Witnesses world wide that they as a body, are NOT inspired or infallible.
  
  It's been weeks overdue but the Jehovah's Witness governing body member, Jeffrey Winder's, talk seeking to justify their pathetic practice of constantly changing their beliefs and outrageously attributing it to God, cannot be ignored by this channel, so I present a long overdue rebuttal.
  
  This video was released 1 year ago by Watchtower Examination on YouTube.
  
  Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_W2ysKyUqc&t=1197s
  
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