Dear Zeb,
Yup, we're all going through stuff.
Don't worry!
The truth -THE TRUTH - is that you are just fine right now, you always have been, and you always will be.
John
dear all,.
my health took a beating over the years with stress from various sources, not a little from the wt; and dangerous areas of work involving fumes and so on.
the arc also took its toll and i have had recently a heart attack.
Dear Zeb,
Yup, we're all going through stuff.
Don't worry!
The truth -THE TRUTH - is that you are just fine right now, you always have been, and you always will be.
John
i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.
i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.
it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.
Alive. Thank you so very much for taking the time to share your insight.
The way you explained things is perfectly aligned with what her recent conduct has been.
"huge internal mental pressure", "haunted by fears of Satan's cunning", "mentally break the more sensitive". I suspected this is what was going on with her . It gives me a lot to think about.
I have seen all the signs of this. The almost frantic fear. At the same time we have a strong mutual desire for each other.
If her JW beliefs win out, then that will be the solution, game over.
As of now, I still would like to have her in my life in some way.
But that's a big moral responsibility. I don't want to play REAL God and get between God and her. Only God knows what path she needs to take.
But, I am really attracted to her spiritually and mentally. The physical is there too, but it's just like that's just part of the natural deal.
"mentally break the more sensitive". She is very intelligent and sensitive. I don't want my pursuing her to mess her up. We are almost like "twins", we're on the same wave length thought-wise. It's like all of life so far was just preparing us to meet at this time.
I had an older brother who had residual problems from the Vietnam era whom I took care of for 8 years. So a tiny bit of familiarity w/cognitive problems. Why would one voluntarily want to undertake such a thing. I don't know, I just feel a strong spiritual duty to help this gal.
I guess a lot people don't believe in God. I happen to be one who does. Couple weeks ago I was hurting over this and praying to God for help. He told me He will "give" her to me, but that I need to be patient. But, that could have just been my wishful thinking too.
Alive, thank you again so much. Your words really clarify how deep this thing is.
Any advice/insight etc. anyone can give will be sincerely appreciated!
i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.
i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.
it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.
Black Sheep, thank you. There's a lot of wisdom in those 2 sentences.
Pete Zahut, thank you for the scriptural references and the JW interpretation as the basis for how a JW gal is likely to be thinking.
i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.
i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.
it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.
LisaRose Thank you.
Your explanation really got into the "nitty gritty" of things and is SO HELPFUL !
i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.
i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.
it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.
clarity thank you.
Wow, the way you described the thinking is downright "scary".
You've certainly been Blessed too have freed yourself from all that.
i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.
i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.
it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.
Prologos Thank you for your advice.
I failed to mention that she is about 50yrs old so future offspring is not likely an issue.
Thanks again for your "take" on this.
i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.
i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.
it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.
WireRider Thank you.
I'm real sorry to hear about the lousy experience you had to go through.
Thank you for your valuable advice.
i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.
i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.
it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.
JWdaughter..Thank you so much.
The insight you have so kindly shared is enabling me to begin to make sense of this whole experience.
I've been astounded at this gal's fortitude to "back away".
I mean in a superficial material sense I've been a trial atty in Calif., and in Hollywood movies, financially sound, and blah blah blah.
Although she doesn't know any of that, she does know that I love God just as much, or possibly more, than she does. And she is as poor as can be.
Geez, JW has an extremely strong "control" over her thought processes.
Thank you again, Sincerely !
i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.
i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.
it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.
I'm a non-JW guy.
Joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about JW.
I enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.
Question:
It appears that a non-JW guy is "off limits" to a JW girl-gal. That any kind of time together, dating, relationship, etc. is a "no no".
Once there is a de facto friendship/relationship, whether it's been 2 weeks or 2 years, and the girl calls it off/backs away/disappears-shuns etc., and assuming that the reason given is sincere, that it's because she is a JW, how is the girl likely thinking?
I mean is she thinking that since the guy is in "the world" that, no matter how nice he has been, he must be inspired by satan or something? Has she likely consulted w/JW family members or JW friends who negatively influence her? Or, have her "brainwashed" beliefs just short-circuited her ability to think rationally? Does she likely experience "mixed emotions"?
It's been happening to me and it seems has happened to other non-JW guys too.
Any insight will be greatly appreciated!
there is a certain elder in my wives hall that has seemed to developed a real interest her.
first he seemed to feel a need to make sure all her blood cards were signed before she gave birth to our child.. he sends her text messages if she misses a meeting saying how much " we missed you last night ".
he finally sent her a text wondering where her oct hours were , knowing she had some pretty serious tears from child birth and could hardly even walk, much less do field service ".
Yeh, Clambake,
Warts happening?