Posts by thankyou

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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

thankyou

Hey Silvia,

" Oh my goodness...this is getting good"

Get your coffee and your napkin-tissue, cause it's getting even better.

I'm in a Fla coastal city. It has miles n miles of beachfront with many attached parks.

What are the odds of this happening.

Today in the VERY SPOT where this JW girl and I stood on the sidewalk at the end of our second day together discussing whether we had a future, today JW set up a brochure stand with 2 chairs with 2 JW guys, one of whom fortunately is a younger black gentleman.

Only she, GOD, and myself knew about this spot.

I had a nice long discussion with them about she and I. They are really patient and do listen.

One JW gentleman said she's keeping her distance cause she doesn't want me getting between her and Jehovah.

And I agree that I would never want to get between GOD and her.

The other gentleman said to start studying the bible with them and tell her about it and it may draw her back to me.

She loves Jehovah, and I love God.

IF they are one and the same thing, this might just have a happy ending.

What say you/folks?

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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

thankyou

GL Tirebiter,

Thank you for that clear and comprehensive explanation. It's very much appreciated.

May I ask you 2 questions?

(1) What, if any, is the consequence or significance of being deemed "spiritually weak"?

(2) What's the deal with a JW member who is unmarried and "disassociates" herself?

I ask because early on this gal I'm interested in told me that she wrote/mailed an important letter constituting a very big day in her life. At the time I had a "gut feeling" that it involved her association with her JW religion. Unfortunately, I chose not to be too nosey and ask about it.

Thanks

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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

thankyou

LisaRose,

Thanks so much for your explanation! I had been wondering about that for awhile now.

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How Many JWs Really Believe Everything They Are Told?

by minimus in

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i think that 80% of jws do not truly believe in what they are taught .

the vast majority stay in because of family, friends, ignorance and a lack of caring about any of the facts regarding the "truth".

many people are lazy.

thankyou

goingthruthemotions

I can't stop laughing. After what you posted, I'm going to rethink chasing this JW girl I've been pursuing.

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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

thankyou

nonjwspouse,

THANK YOU FOR THAT GREAT ADVICE/WARNING.

I'll make it a priority this week before getting involved any further.

You know, thinking ahead, I'ld settle for just becoming a platonic friend to help her out financially and emotionally.

It looks like that may not even be possible from her side though. So, very sad to me. I may have to wind up just praying for her only.

With all the kindness from you folks on this forum and with a lot of prayers by me, maybe this will all work out somehow in a way that greatly benefits her. I hope so. "It's not over till it's over."

You know when we would go shopping or eat in a restaurant I would sometimes give her the money and let her pay while I (eg). went to the rest room. Even though she was "poor as a rat", I trusted her completely and she was meticulous to immediately give me the change.

I find her to be such an interesting personality.

The only problem was that once I expressed some feelings for her she changed. I mean it was weird, did she think I had just been hanging out with for the heck of it. I mean she knew obviously. I guess she was just programmed to react to a verbal manifestation. I should have kept my "mouth shut."

Thank you again for your advice.

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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

thankyou

GL Tirebiter

"package deal" ".... this is the way the Witnesses see the situation!"

Thank you very much for that insight into JW thinking.

I visited a Kingdom Hall. Although very affable, it seemed to me that the few folks there, doing yard work, were a little bit "out of focus".

I don't know if it was mental/emotional/spiritual on their part, or just my imagination. At least that's the way it seemed to me. I was only there about 10 minutes. It is extremely subtle, almost imperceptible.

So, I won't be going back there or ever getting involved in JW. Or, any church denomination for that matter. I saw it as a 12 year old in the Protestant-Episcopal church denomination.

I like your caveat-warning.

THANK YOU AGAIN VERY MUCH.

p.s. Since a JW is admonished not to even date a non JW. How has a JW spouse navigated things in such a way as to end up with a non JW spouse?

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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

thankyou

Sylvia,

Just made a long post to you, but lost it, so just briefly this time.

Coffee spurting from your nose, that's funny!

Re JW elder (43 yrs JW). Yes, you corroborated my perception, enough said, they may read this forum.

She likely "acting as siren..trying to get disfellowshipped..mental health issues". Yes, probably some or all of these. Plus her JW beliefs not to assoc w/non JW. Plus it's a lot of pressure for her to deal with some guy who is interested in her.

"Reading too much into this relationship". Anything is possible. She is a JW, may have mental health issues (prior to and/or exacerbated by JW). But, based on my experience, she likes me ALOT. It's all just too much for her to handle and she needs time and space (which I'm patiently giving her).

She has a lot of problems. Nathan says this is a pathetic "romance". And, I can see how one can say that. But, it is what it is. What really bothers me is that she is so poor (food, clothing, and now shelter who knows?)

"Stalking". No, not at all. (but who knows, if she has mental health issues). Not considering what we went through. I'm actually being quite patient.

She only gave one brief sign of a mental health issue/or could have just been stress, before I even spoke to her. But, once we met she was ok. Although once or twice I asked her something that she couldn't remember the answer to and seemed perplexed that she couldn't remember. I've read somewhere online that JW have been known to use "regression" techniques w/a member. She's actually a sweet girl though.

I want to say more, but got to go out now.

Thanks Sylvia!

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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

thankyou

WireRider,

"I haven't been able to see her ever again".

If you are willing to say, can you tell the story, in detail whatever you know, of what happened after you asked her to marry you and she said "yes".

I mean after her brother did a "number" on her, did you folks argue? Or, did she just say she can't see you anymore? etc. etc.

Man, that sounds "rough", and how in the heck have you been able to deal with that? etc.

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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

thankyou

Zana,

Thanks. Looks like you're married to a one in a million gal. Congratulations!

I had a wife like that, was aware of it and appreciated it every day, but after many years together she went to heaven.

So, I need to start all over again.

This gal now has a sister in Georgia and a Grandpa in S. Carolina.

I tried to keep it "light" w/her, and not pry too much, but yah, sure wish I had asked how long and why she joined JW.

I didn't know anything about JW, thought they were just a fringe Protestant group of pleasant people who knocked on doors on week ends.

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"Most women would prefer to be stay at home housewives. Women's lib did alot of damage to women!"

by purrpurr in

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friends

the above is a quote from a jw female relative.

this was in response to a discussion about the suffragette movement ( and the movie about it that's currently in cinemas).

she seemed to think that it would be so much better if women were just daughters/ wives/ mothers and didn't go out to work and have career's?

thankyou

Hey, Sowhatnow,

Nice post! You made a lot of good points!