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  My DA from the WBT$ 'membership'.

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i posted this on the private board 2 years ago but now don't care who sees this as i'm no longer in hiding from the wbt$ cult members.. these are transcripts of the 2 letters i recieved leading up to my being da'd (not df'd), for apostacy(tm).

  dear punk.

  i am aware that you have requested that there be no contact from the congregation, but there is an outstanding matter that needs to be resolved, and we would like to have your co-operation in resolving it.. .

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  gingerbread

  It's their way..... or the highway.
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  The purpose of changing JW names, titles and terms

  by gingerbread in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during a discussion over the weekend, we exchanged ideas about recent changes in terminology related to assembly days, conventions and new titles for the higher-ups.

  i commented that for years in 'security' at larger meetings we were told to talk to any that seemed out of place and ask questions that would indicate if they were apostates - antiquated terms like 'overseer' or a reference the 'truth' book.. another in our group brought up the character in the orwell book 1984 and how his job was to separate new and approved terms from old words.

  this was called doublethink and blackwhite.

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  gingerbread

  During a discussion over the weekend, we exchanged ideas about recent changes in terminology related to assembly days, conventions and new titles for the higher-ups. I commented that for years in 'security' at larger meetings we were told to talk to any that seemed out of place and ask questions that would indicate if they were apostates - antiquated terms like 'overseer' or a reference the 'Truth' book.

  Another in our group brought up the character in the Orwell book 1984 and how his job was to separate new and approved terms from old words. This was called doublethink and blackwhite. Interesting way to control and manipulate information.

  Is the change in terms a way for the faithful to feel up to speed with the organization? Is it an easy way to identify anyone who is not active so a private shunning is possible?
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  Problems of Dating the Watchtower Way

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i wanted to know what problems you have learned about dating in the "truth" acording to there policy.

  i feel like you dont really know someone until you live with them.

  also some put on a false personality until they get what they want i.e.

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  gingerbread

  The Watchtower Society sends a clear message that women are to be treated like 'property'. They are to be quiet, modest, in subjection (to husbands and elders) and controlled.

  The approved dating methods are only for the selection of a marriage mate i.e. men shopping for a wife. That is why young sisters are trained to get all fixed up for the conventions - to attract a 'spiritual' brother.

  It's a no brainer that marriages resulting from this method are unhappy and artificial. It's all fantasy - til the day after the wedding.
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  Do Facebook "Friends" That Constantly Brag, Irritate You?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are a few people who are fb friends that constantly brag about themselves, their looks, their accomplishments, their bodies, their job---etc.. one particular person is too close to ignore but it's never ending.

  i am thisclose to telling her, to please stop it.. any thoughts?.

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  gingerbread

  I think of Facebook as being like attending the company picnic or a family reunion. If I don't like a particular 'conversation' of a friend or family member, I just scroll down and find someone else to interact with.

  Easy peasy...
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  Higher Education...in the news. Pew research

  by ldrnomo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.npr.org/2014/02/11/275297408/going-to-college-may-cost-you-but-so-will-skipping-it.

  use this the next time a jw tells you there is little advantage to going to college..

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  gingerbread

  I've learned not to take financial advice from a broke person.

  The same rule applies to those JW's who gave me negative advice about pursuing a university degree. I did it anyway. And it opened a door to every job I've had and continues to provide a decent living (and career) for our family.

  And those poor bas7@rds have aged beyond their years...

  ginger
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  Are Baptisms Internal Births or Converts?

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are baptisms internal births or converts?.

  there were around 6,000,000 jehovah's witnesses in 1995, during which time the global average birth rate was 22.4/1000.

  the estimated number of witness children born is therefore 134,400. in 2011, when that group of children were around the age of baptism, there were 263,161 people baptised.

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  gingerbread

  I think that the WT leadership may be changing it's stance on children. This is just an intuitive guess.

  WT publications have been produced just for young folks since the 1920's. These were indoctrination books. And over the course of 90 years, the WT has discouraged parents from having planned pregnancies because Armageddon was just 'around the corner'. If anyone was around in the mid-1980's, this message was loud and clear in publications and from the platform.

  With the recent development of children's videos, lessons, arts and crafts projects, etc., I'm thinking that the leadership has realized that kids are their main source of new converts. The new WT's message to young ones is 'candy coated' and 'happy, happy, joy, joy' cartoonie character perfect.

  The WT leadership is also sending a subtle message to young couples : make babies and raise them in the organization.

  With the help of the Mother organization, you can have a happy and rewarding family life...
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  It's not fake... I'm crazy

  by Angus Beef in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  trying to fade... using the mentally depressed, bi-polar, etc.... was eating out with husband.

  nice evening chatting and relaxing.

  ready to head home and chill for the night.

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  gingerbread

  With time you'll realize that the fear and panic is just in your head. Allow yourself to be free from the mental control that you were conditioned to have as a JW.

  Make steps to be out in public and do the things that you enjoy. Avoid (shun) them if you see them at a distance. If the circumstances require a face-to-face encounter, repeat a stock answer ("We're doing great! Good to see you too!!") that you've memorized.

  With time they'll avoid you in public!

  ginger
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  BOE Letter: New Adjustments

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  **this was predicted from some members here**.

  to all congregations .

  re: adjustments in organizational terminology and assembly arrangements .

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  gingerbread

  Reducing the number of days during the year of sitting in an auditorium increases the number of days that able bodied men and women can volunteer on building projects. Guilt will be used to encourage building assistance on new halls and the 'World Headquarters'.

  The next step is to reduce printing to the bare minimum (my prediction) by ending the Watchtower and Awake magazines and transitioning to printed leaflets, short sermons/presentations on DVD and QR Codes pointing to JW.org.

  Printing is old technology (used by Russell and the Bible Students). It's time to "keep pace with Jehovah's Organization" into the 21st century!

  ginger
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  Did They Tell You?

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  d id they tell you they were taking care of the brothers and sisters in need in other countries?..

  did they tell you that your contributions were being used for disaster relief?..

  did they tell you that your contributions were being used for humanitarian assistance?..

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  gingerbread

  How many of the active members that you've known rely on government disability, public assistance, government health insurance, etc in order to make it through the last days of "this dying system"?

  If it's like my part of the country ... a LOT !

  We've heard for years how this system of things makes life so difficult for Jehovah's faithful...and we're SOOO persecuted.
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  This JW video tour is disturbing......

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i found this video on youtube.

  apparently a loyal jw put it together as a kind of "video tour" to show their friends, etc.

  i don't know what's worse, the creepy music (is this what we've been hearing about?

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  gingerbread

  What a utilitarian environment.

  It's like they used an old Soviet city planner/architect to create the design. Everything seems focused on function - even the entry halls and 'relaxation' areas are about as visually exciting as the printery's rooms.

  The only way to jazz it up was to add ... cheesy, interactive displays?