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  Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief

  by Rufus T. Firefly in

  1. watchtower
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  i hope this link works for everyone.

  if you can watch this video, i think you will find it very interesting how closely scientology resembles the watchtower society.

  for example, the watchtower's 'apostates' equate to scientology's 'suppressives.

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  88JM

  Will certainly make for an interesting documentary.

  Apparently Louis Theroux has been working on a documentary about it for quite a while too.

  Was listening Joe Rogan's podcast with him and they were discussing how the Scientology cult first seems to get all the dirt they can on someone (under the premise of confessing sins type of thing etc.) then they can use that to blackmail people when they threaten to leave. I hadn't considered the obvious cases like Tom Cruise and John Travolta where it looks like they were threatened to be outed as gay to keep them in the cult.

  Louis Theroux discussing it here from about 2:31:25:

  https://youtu.be/QjeV2_hKLao?t=2h31m25s
  
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  Today's groundless speculation thread - so why would a German copilot deliberately fly an airplane into a mountain?

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  just can't wrap my head around this.

  the guy (a) evidently did all of this on purpose, and (b) evidently had no reason at all to do so.. there is a huge chunk of the puzzle missing from this one (so far)..

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  Either the pilot in the cockpit suffered a heart attack or some other disabling physical impairment where he was unconscious and could not let the other pilot back into the cockpit...

  That can be ruled out in this case - the cockpit door is designed to open with a keypad from the outside after 30 seconds, unless someone inside the cockpit actively switches the automatic opening off within that time. Unconscious people don't push switches.

  See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROIH3KCEIvs
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  DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.

  it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.

  the lost one i will search for2.

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  From the contents listing, it sounds more like a brochure to keep people in, rather than get people back.
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  Today's groundless speculation thread - so why would a German copilot deliberately fly an airplane into a mountain?

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just can't wrap my head around this.

  the guy (a) evidently did all of this on purpose, and (b) evidently had no reason at all to do so.. there is a huge chunk of the puzzle missing from this one (so far)..

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  It's difficult to rationalize such a horrible action, but as we know from our JW days, people can rationalize very extreme things.
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  Leaked New Songs 139-142

  by toweragent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://jwtalk.net/forums/files/download/498-songs-140-142/.

  i don't know if anybody has seen this (or if anybody cares).

  but it seems that some of the "new" new songs have been leaked by somebody at bethel.. just a bit of a warning, do not click on that vocal rendition of song 142... it is awful.

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  They almost sound like a WT Christmas album?

  Song 140 starts like it's about to turn into this:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChU4M3fe-9Q

  And Song 141 sounds like this:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mg7ok8dmDU

  Song 142 is channeling The Lion King:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GibiNy4d4gc
  
  
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  30 fricken minutes for a part about "Meetings for field service" !!!! Seriously??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  30 minutes and a km article of 13 paragraphs to consider how the field service group should be 5 mins brief!.

  how ironic!.

  (find this in the kingdum misery for march).

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  It's just a one more item in a trend of the total joke that the service meeting has become.

  Week in and week out, there is very little substance to the service meeting items these days - it's either reviewing a previous item earlier in the month, looking ahead to upcoming parts, or reading some bit from the yearbook. Just recycling the same junk with alarming frequency.

  Incidentally here this week it's an assembly weekend so there's no Thursday meeting. However, the elders have changed the service meeting in two weeks so that they are still having this 30 minute item anyway!
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  Ferguson Shooting (Is my thinking on this all wrong.......)

  by out4good3 in

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  i think everyone here can agree that walking down the street, even in the middle of the street, is not cause for having a clip emptied in your ass......... i can understand how the black community would be outraged by the injustice of seeing another black man dead in the street at the hands of the police under mysterious circumstances....... i hope that i'm not succumbing to the attempts to assinate the already well impuned character of the dead man...... however.

  i can't help but think that this could all have been avoided by exercising the proper discretion with fore-knowledge of the disadvantages people of color have when they are dealing with law enforcement in the united states.

  it is not as if this disadvantage has only since recently came to light.

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  Sorry to bump an old thread, but just read this on the US D.O.J. figures for Ferguson - certainly shocked me at least:

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-robinson/the-shocking-finding-from-the-doj-ferguson_b_6858388.html

  "In Ferguson -- a city with a population of 21,000 -- 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police. In other words, if you were to take four people at random, the Ferguson police would consider three of them fugitives."

  
  
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  Shorter meetings for field service

  by hoser in

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  march kingdom ministry insert is about how the field service meetings will be shortened from 10 to 15 minutes down to 5 to 7 minutes.

  they want the publishers to report more hours.

  in my experience the problem isn't the length of the meeting for service but pioneers and publishers dogging it after the service arrangement.

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  Doesn't everyone pretty much "round up" their time anyway? (especially pio-sneers)

  I don't think making the group 5 minutes shorter will show much on the reports.
  
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  Songs 139-142

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  full set: http://imgur.com/a/4xl77.

  for pdf use key: uyqnbqyeulurxzvvvuo2iq.

  sample: .

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  Wow that is really terrible - I assumed it was a parody at first.

  Songs supposedly based on scriptures, but where does it mention the word "pioneer"?
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  The Great Leak: BOEs from 1935 to 2015

  by hildebrando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  409 pages of boes which have leaked from a london informant!

  these include from 1935 to 2015!.

  http://hildeydesa.blogspot.mx/2015/03/the-great-leak-archivo-de-cartas-de.html.

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  Good to see leaks, and multiple sources, but is this any more comprehensive than the file from Atlantis/Petra a couple of weeks ago?

  See this thread:

  JWN: Largest BOE Ever Compiled