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  More political leanings

  by scary21 in

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  just wondering how many here have read "atlas shrugged" by ayn rand, and what you thought about it ?.

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  Afterburn

  Thank you, blondie. I agree. I summed up that analysis with, "Galt does not care what would happen to other humans as a result of his professed "Objectivism" which is actually only a piss-poor mask for selfish vanity. He lacks the perspective required for valid Objectivism, as does every human."

  Since an objective perspective is utterly impossible for humans, Objectivism, as a philosophy that relies upon a capacity humans do not possess, is mortally invalidated as a suitable philosophical model for the species, as a whole, to adopt or subscribe to. It proves most useful as an excuse for the wealthy and the vain to confirm their preexisting biases and to comfort themselves with the utterly false, and easily disproved, notion of their own capacity for objectivity.

  The entire fictional model of thought is founded upon the fundamental flawed premise that humans can be objective.
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  One simple photo to sum up the heartless and hypocritical attitudes of many Jehovah's Witnesses

  by nicolaou in

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  this was taken in london yesterday by a twitter user still managing his fade so i can't be more specific than that.

  disgusting.

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  Afterburn

  @ Giles Gray

  Your points have already been covered and debunked in my posts to flipper.
  

  False.

  @ Drearyweather

  but then you write a 12 paragraph essay telling why my opinion was wrong.
  

  You're being ridiculous. I criticized your condescending judgment of others and your having put false words in my mouth, and I also disagreed with your opinion ... I wasn't telling you why your opinion was wrong, I was telling you why I disagreed with it.

  Perhaps you confused the two? Maybe you felt personally attacked by normal civil discourse?

  As to photos being published (anywhere in public), if the photo is taken in a public place the persons in the picture have no expectation of privacy.
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  More political leanings

  by scary21 in

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  just wondering how many here have read "atlas shrugged" by ayn rand, and what you thought about it ?.

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  Afterburn

  At no point in the book was Galt at any risk at all of being "left with less than" those benefiting from his hard work, other than the risk he himself intended to create for everyone, and, by extension, for everyone's "hard work."
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  More political leanings

  by scary21 in

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  just wondering how many here have read "atlas shrugged" by ayn rand, and what you thought about it ?.

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  Afterburn

  Charity is all well and good, however, "earned income" does not always equal "income," no one "earns" an annual in excess of $1,000,000.00 USD, and yet, many people do receive incomes far and away in excess of this.
  
  Does the fact that they receive this wealth mean they are the ones best suited to determine how it is spent, or should they only have that liberty with money they have actually earned?
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  Just in case you were having a bit of trouble...

  by JayDubyaDotOrg in

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  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/tutorial-making-donations-electronically/.

  now available.. a how-to guide to help remove that pesky money from your bank account.

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  Afterburn

  I ran across that same video while finally touring the site, today!
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  The site that shall not be named ...

  by Afterburn in

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  i know people are concerned about adding positively to jw stats on the site that shall not be named, but i don't think the argument is a valid one, because they are going to see cause to brag on themselves whether the stats rise, stagnate, or fall.

  it's built into their self-conceits.

  here's the menu you get when you create a user account on that site.. .

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  Afterburn

  sbf, the question and response both clarify that the context is "apostate or disfellowshipped."
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  2019-New Files Just Arrived!

  by Atlantis in

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  2019 application for prison minister.

  https://docdro.id/dxusjmu.

  2019 brd visitor center newsletter.

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  Afterburn

  ... publishers should refrain from posting messages to guest books or online obituaries unless they personally know the deceased or the family of the deceased.
  

  Translation: We are fully aware that this cult has trained you to be calloused, insensitive, socially maladjusted, and opportunistic, and you are all doing very well, however, this one even squicked us a little bit, so ... just ... just, no.
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  The site that shall not be named ...

  by Afterburn in

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  i know people are concerned about adding positively to jw stats on the site that shall not be named, but i don't think the argument is a valid one, because they are going to see cause to brag on themselves whether the stats rise, stagnate, or fall.

  it's built into their self-conceits.

  here's the menu you get when you create a user account on that site.. .

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  Afterburn

  I'm actually finding some dismaying stuff available without a login from their site. The second of these two Questions From Readers, Watchtower April 1, 1953: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1953247

  I had been given to understand the views on disfellowshipping had hardened over a span of some decades, but this seems a very harsh view by the early 1950s.

  Since the disfellowshiped one is no longer a participant in the meetings at the Kingdom Hall, and since it is no longer his rightful place of religious association, he having been disconnected from that association by disfellowshiping, and in attendance at Kingdom Hall now, not by invitation or welcome but by his unwanted intrusion ...

  Yeah ... pretty dark.

  Here's the October 1, 1956 reference to the study article discussing why "Sodomy (or the unnatural intercourse of one male with another male as with a female), Lesbianism (or the homosexual relations between women), and bestiality (or the unnatural sexual relations by man or woman with an animal) are not Scriptural grounds for divorce."

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1956723#h=24

  Pops you right to the very paragraph. On their site.

  The same cult that tells adherents to "wait on Jehovah" has never shown the slightest inclination to do that among the cult's leadership. That's why there are ever growing mountains of "old light" piling up behind the cult's leadership.
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  The site that shall not be named ...

  by Afterburn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know people are concerned about adding positively to jw stats on the site that shall not be named, but i don't think the argument is a valid one, because they are going to see cause to brag on themselves whether the stats rise, stagnate, or fall.

  it's built into their self-conceits.

  here's the menu you get when you create a user account on that site.. .

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  Afterburn

  I know people are concerned about adding positively to JW stats on the site that shall not be named, but I don't think the argument is a valid one, because they are going to see cause to brag on themselves whether the stats rise, stagnate, or fall. It's built into their self-conceits. Here's the menu you get when you create a user account on that site.

  

  If the only thing you had to judge the cult by was this screen, what would you think was probably very important to them about their interactions with validated users accounts?

  'Announcements' may as well be labeled 'Find a Propaganda Center Near You or Donate' ... here's all I found when I clicked on Announcements:

  

  Seems to me that donations is what they most want from their registered users. But that's just a feeling I got.

  Under their Terms of Use, Medical Section, I found this:

  

  They seem a bit worried about lawsuits, to me.
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  One simple photo to sum up the heartless and hypocritical attitudes of many Jehovah's Witnesses

  by nicolaou in

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  2. friends

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  this was taken in london yesterday by a twitter user still managing his fade so i can't be more specific than that.

  disgusting.

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  Afterburn

  For the record, in the year before I left the cult (2004) the only "charitable" works the religion cited to secure its charitable organization status from the United States government was "Education."
  
  They do not offer education as a charitable work, rather, they offer propaganda.

  Unless that has changed, they would not be among the charities Kramer referenced. It is a common fallacy for people to assume that JWs are charitable in much the same way as other religions, but JW literature actually scorns other religions for creating "rice Christians" out of the people they are charitable toward.

  It isn't easy, at all, to reconcile life as a JW with chapters four and five of Acts, or with any of the many times Jesus urged charity with material goods.