Oompa, so sorry for what you're going through. I can't even imagine what you have gone through and are going through now. I wish the very best for you.
TweetieBird
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wife took it pretty well i guess...it's over...
by oompa ini guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
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Which sex is most faithfull?
by highdose inout of the brothers and sisters, which sex is most likely to leave the jw's?
does anyone have any theorys?.
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TweetieBird
Well, I'm female but my husband actually left organization (mentally) before I did. But, I have 2 JW female friends, one left years ago and one is in the process. He has 1 male friend that he grew up with that left before we did so that makes 3 females, 2 males. Does that make sense?
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Merger creates new Church of America
by RR insalt lake city, utah - in an unprecedented merger, expected to have massive ramifications for spirituality in america, several major off-brand sects of christianity have all joined together into one monolithic faith.. .
at a summit held by the church of jesus christ of latter day saints here in utah, several other faiths were invited, all with one thing in common - an american origin.. .
invited were the seventh day adventists, jehovah's witnesses and the first church of christ, scientist.
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TweetieBird
Funny!
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TweetieBird
"But I live in Murphy, a little town northeast of Dallas."
Hey Big Tex: I used to live in Wylie back in the early 90's
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Question for elder/ex-elders
by TweetieBird inwhy do elders, in judicial committee meetings when dealing with immorality, have to ask so many personal questions, i.e.
how many times, was oral sex involved, anal sex, how many times, etc.
is it really necessary or are the elders just getting off asking about someone else's sex life?
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TweetieBird
Thank you for all of the replies. My friend has decided to let them know that she has been having a sexual relationship with someone and that she is not planning on stopping. That's all they get. She has also stated that the organization seems cultish sometimes.
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Question for elder/ex-elders
by TweetieBird inwhy do elders, in judicial committee meetings when dealing with immorality, have to ask so many personal questions, i.e.
how many times, was oral sex involved, anal sex, how many times, etc.
is it really necessary or are the elders just getting off asking about someone else's sex life?
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TweetieBird
Why do elders, in judicial committee meetings when dealing with immorality, have to ask so many personal questions, i.e. how many times, was oral sex involved, anal sex, how many times, etc. Is it really necessary or are the elders just getting off asking about someone else's sex life? What does it really matter? Sex is sex, immorality is immorality? Just curious! I have a JW friend that has been involved in having a sexual relationship with someone and wants to tell the elders about it (only because she does not want to be a hypocrite) but does not want to divulge all of the details.
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hangover cures please
by highdose ini got no sleep at all last night... this was mostly because i was dancing on tabletops in nightclubs.
and also because i'd had way too much to drink, but mostly because i was having a great time!!
i got home around the time that everyone else was getting up.. it was soooo good!
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TweetieBird
McDonalds hashbrowns and coke followed by lots of sleep always does the trick for me. Had to make a run this morning actually but not for me, for my JW friend.
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Funniest new show on TV
by JimmyPage ini've been watching "modern family" and i love it!
anybody else catch it?.
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TweetieBird
I missed it when it originally came on but I got to watch it at www.Hulu.com
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Dealing with a 'molested child' in a Judicial matter.
by dissed ini'm trying to respect the privacy of this individual, so forgive me if i'm a little too vague in my descriptions.. this for me, was the most emotional and difficult judicial matter that i have ever experienced.
its been many years since this happened and i'm still troubled, and troubled for this individual.. a young sister had committed fornication and i was chosen to sit on the judicial committee.. the case didn't make sense at first.
she was a faithful example in the congregation and was very much liked by all.
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TweetieBird
That is so sad! But what's even sadder is that this whole thing is repeated over and over again. How many people get disfellowshipped each year because they are weak but not wicked. The whole disfellowshipping thing is wrong on so many levels.
As believing witnesses we were all guilty of perpetuating this obscene practice by going along with the shunning part of it. I think we all can look back and regret treating disfellowshipped ones badly because we were doing what we thought was right at the time.
Please don't beat yourself up too badly for this. I agree with the other poster, if you can track this girl down and apologize it would be good.
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can you really ever fade with immediate family still in?
by oompa ini am beginning to think not....elders still want to call on me rather than befriend me in any way.....and with a "good" wife and son and parents in, it seems like i still have one foot in only because of the overlap with my other "free" self........it is hard to really feel free in this situation, and is still have desire to just run the fluck away.....which would mean pretty much giving up my family in nearly every respect.
some here really miss their family and wife, others so love the freedom they seem able to move on and start fresh....as you know, i dont seem to have the balls for that, and at this point in my life the price seems to high to fully start over........it is the "one in one out limbo dance"......oompa.
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TweetieBird
I've been fading for 10 years or more. Even living in a different area than family is hard because when they come to visit, they want to go to meetings. If you haven't been to the hall for a while you're found out when nobody in the hall knows who you are. Fortunately, my husband and kids do not believe the bs anymore so if the rest of the family disowns us, so be it. I'm tired of playing the game.