"Investigating MLM is what led to my own epiphany about the JWs and mind control. The two use a lot of the same techniques and manipulations. An Amway expose called "Things They Will Say" showed me how I was being controlled.
Same here...I was at an MLM convention that the lightbulb went off.
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Amway
by bobld ineverybody has heard of amway but few are joining.everyboby has heard of jehovah's witnesses but few are joining.both use deceptive tactics to recruit new members.. bob.
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Did you ever think you would end up here?
by highdose inmeaning... on this website, no longer a jw or at least no longer beliving anymore?
i never did, even 18 months ago it would have seemed impossible, unthinkable.
even though looking back the seeds of doubt had been sown for some time, i just never allowed myself to think about them... vvv dangerous thing to do!.
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My journey started back in 1996 when I stumbled on a website that had a link to one chapter of Ray Franz' book. I secretly bought both of his books and let go of years of guilt for never measuring up. From there I found a website like this one (H2O) and saw the link to this one and never looked back. I have been successfully fading ever since. My husband and kids no longer believe the lies but my sister and in-laws still have blinders on. Recently my best friend took her blinders off which means I no longer have to go to meetings as the JW family members all live out of state.
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Surviving an Unwanted Shepherding Call 101
by 2pink ina little background: my husband and i are newly fading, er make that disappearing.
i haven't been to meeting in months (and life has never been better).
i made the god-awful mistake of not turning in field service time for september, the same week the co was in town.
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Thanks for sharing...I remember getting those dreaded shepherding calls. I think the elders hate doing them as much as the witnesses hate getting them.
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Lawyer Letter copy to Judicial Committee
by Gayle incharles, smith & bellah.
a professionall cof*qp*.t!on.
attorneys at law .
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There was a brother in my old hall that did something similar, told elders that he would file a lawsuit if any announcement was made, so they left him alone. However, it didn't take long for it to get spread through the grapevine so basically he was treated as dfd without any announcement made.
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What if Ron Paul ran the WH and R. Franz the WT? Imagine the possibilities
by tjlibre injust wondering.....
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I like the way you think.
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wife took it pretty well i guess...it's over...
by oompa ini guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
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Oompa, so sorry for what you're going through. I can't even imagine what you have gone through and are going through now. I wish the very best for you.
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Which sex is most faithfull?
by highdose inout of the brothers and sisters, which sex is most likely to leave the jw's?
does anyone have any theorys?.
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Well, I'm female but my husband actually left organization (mentally) before I did. But, I have 2 JW female friends, one left years ago and one is in the process. He has 1 male friend that he grew up with that left before we did so that makes 3 females, 2 males. Does that make sense?
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Merger creates new Church of America
by RR insalt lake city, utah - in an unprecedented merger, expected to have massive ramifications for spirituality in america, several major off-brand sects of christianity have all joined together into one monolithic faith.. .
at a summit held by the church of jesus christ of latter day saints here in utah, several other faiths were invited, all with one thing in common - an american origin.. .
invited were the seventh day adventists, jehovah's witnesses and the first church of christ, scientist.
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Funny!
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"But I live in Murphy, a little town northeast of Dallas."
Hey Big Tex: I used to live in Wylie back in the early 90's
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Question for elder/ex-elders
by TweetieBird inwhy do elders, in judicial committee meetings when dealing with immorality, have to ask so many personal questions, i.e.
how many times, was oral sex involved, anal sex, how many times, etc.
is it really necessary or are the elders just getting off asking about someone else's sex life?
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Thank you for all of the replies. My friend has decided to let them know that she has been having a sexual relationship with someone and that she is not planning on stopping. That's all they get. She has also stated that the organization seems cultish sometimes.