Very good repsonses Lisa Maria and Skeeter. Hoarding is a mental illness I wish upon nobody, it's a sad affliction for the kids of the parents or parents of a child hoarder. JWN never fails to bring out the creme of the crop, thank you for understanding we are limited by legal constraints what a Hoarder is willing to allow us to help them with. Hoarders have called the police on people trying to help them clean up their foul homes only to have those same police vacant them from their premises!
AuntConnie
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We Cleaned Out A Hoarding Pioneer's House and Discovered Boxes of Lies! What To Do?
by AuntConnie ini was doing some mild cleaning for one of the local hoarding witness sisters; her house was going to be condemned so we all got together trying to get her house in order because she does not have any worldly family willing to speak to her.
some of the friends decided they would try to guilt her family, her family was very blunt when they said to tell their sister to tell the stealing bitch to go and f-yourself!.
i got in touch with one of her local family members and he was more peaceful and explained why all his family members hated her.
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So are Republicans now openly terrorists?
by Simon inthey seem determined to undermine the us democracy and shut the government down hurting employees and veterans.. what a despicable bunch, hope they get their asses kicked for what they are doing..
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AuntConnie
ADCMS,
May I ask you, what does the Right have in common with Christianity? Christians of the Westboro Baptist mindset are backers of these trolls, I am curious why people have no altruism. When I hear Atheist and Agnostics preaching for healthcare for the poor and Far-Right Christians against health-care for the poor, I wonder if I died and went to Limbo. This world of Limbo is a place where you can pound the poor into the ground, pay them slave wages and get away with it. If a worker get's his arms cut off, you can pay them $15,000 (Texas) and walk away from any responsiblity. I had a dream where Atheist and Agnostics were preaching for healthcare parity,why are the believers so uncaring?
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We Cleaned Out A Hoarding Pioneer's House and Discovered Boxes of Lies! What To Do?
by AuntConnie ini was doing some mild cleaning for one of the local hoarding witness sisters; her house was going to be condemned so we all got together trying to get her house in order because she does not have any worldly family willing to speak to her.
some of the friends decided they would try to guilt her family, her family was very blunt when they said to tell their sister to tell the stealing bitch to go and f-yourself!.
i got in touch with one of her local family members and he was more peaceful and explained why all his family members hated her.
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AuntConnie
Zoos, twenty years ago two counties were told not to allow a very twisted couple to get magazines from anyone. They both were clinically insane, that's not the problem or we would have less people pushing magazines if we required a sense of mental well-being or a sanity test from our friends.
Brother and Sister Lumpskin were getting the magazines and asking the public for $5 for a $.25 magazine and they would scream at people passing by like the aggressive vagrants who get in your face and follow you three blocks until you throw them a buck. The elders had to pick them up from the Police station after brother L sprayed a few dogs with Mace and told the householder if he ever messes with him "He will cut his throat like he did to those Nazi's in WW2!".
You can't blame the elders for the condition Hoarders put themselves in. The friends try and try and try to help people by cleaning only to find the stupid fools are bringing back the cat litter and bags of dirty Depends back inside because they fear something valuable is missing from their house. The brothers and sisters tried hard with "Sister Hoarder", you can ask other elders and sisters who are fighting to keep some of these people from being put in a mental hospital for good. Watch the show "Hoarders" and it will bring you some perspective, it's a mental illness and this sister is starting to build up her clutter after a month, some sisters went by and threw out some filthy shit.
The elders try their best but some of the friends after countless interventions, it's time to stop wasting time and allow them to be instituionalized. It might seem calloused to anyone who has never walked through a trailer with cat, dog and human excrement, underwear with human urine and rot stinking of the home. The sisters and elders who spearheaded several projects are doing their best.
About the waste of the magazines, brother Gofus the literature servant still has magazines coming in for a brother and sister who died years ago. The Hindi and Farsi magazines this couple were getting are stacked high of two years worth, the Organization needs competent men handling the literature and know who is actually coming to the Kingdom Hall. What a concept, try to get to know who is attending your Kingdom Hall so your not ordering magazines, year-books and "Examining the Scriptures", Calenders" for friends long dead!
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Actual JW comment on "daily Text"
by AuntBee in"with everything that is going on in this world it really is wonderful to be spiritually awake!
the world is groping for answers to solve their problems.
jehovah is revealing to us what is about to happen.
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AuntConnie
"With everything that is going on in this world it really is wonderful to be spiritually awake! The world is groping for answers to solve their problems. Jehovah is revealing to us what is about to happen. So lift your heads up because your deliverance is near!!" Aunt Bee
A happy Witness! I think most are not happy because of the New Light pushing "The End" further into time. JWs Say The Darnest Things! Now get this, out in service I am working with one brother who try's to pretend he is some kind of Greg Stafford or Hal Fleming or Heinz or Furari. Now you have to get the feel for our car-group, we have the circuit-overseer sitting in the back looking out into space when brother Zombie said according to Nomstradamus, we might see "The End in the year 3535". Quick to correct false thinking the circuit overseer explained "as Jehovah's Witnesses, we don't go around making predictions like Nomstradamus did and "The End" will be here shortly, the world's birth pains are telling us the baby is almost born!"
Also the CO said that Nomstradamus got his dates from Satan, no other explanation!
Think of all the intelligent conversations you are missing by fading from the Brotherhood, it's a blast!
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So are Republicans now openly terrorists?
by Simon inthey seem determined to undermine the us democracy and shut the government down hurting employees and veterans.. what a despicable bunch, hope they get their asses kicked for what they are doing..
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AuntConnie
Slimboy, anyone ever tell you, you are very sexy? You write like a real man does!
Simon you care about people below the Country line, I love Canada and her people. Simon is it true Canadians don't call their bankers "Pieces of shit", "Turds coming back for another round of flushing", "Money grubbing carpet bagging con-men"?
How come the United States was unable to con our Canadian friends ino buying all their garbage? Canada probably spends more money on their people instead of war and paying top prices for drugs. We have social medicine here called "Medicare" for the disabled and elderly, the V.A. is trying to pass the buck on their wounded soliders here now, doctors are getting paid to tell soldiers they don't have P.T.S.D. after watching their fellow solider get blown into pieces before his very eyes. How could scraping your Sargents flesh off your face and coughing out his blood cause stress? The Republicans are trying to destroy the V.A. Hospitals and deny the soliders their just dues. What the fuck is wrong with these fuckheads?
Can we get the ultra-right to debate Robert Reich, he makes solid arguments for paying people above $9.00 a hour so they are not stuck asking for Food Stamps but that would cause great discomfort to the top 1% who make their money from interesting methods of "Carry Interest" like sexy Mitt Romney did. Mitten's is still pissed off the last Great White Hope was eliminated because his message about the 47% from the heart came into the publics ears!
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An Elder Reads CoC !!
by TTATTelder ini have recently joined the site.
i was just appointed an elder this summer.
i started discovering the ttatt (the truth about the truth) last year after putting a few things together myself concerning the leadership and then doing some research online.. i really enjoyed jwfacts.com, jwsurvey, and others.
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AuntConnie
Imagine being stuck in a religion you no longer believe in, you are following your husband's dreams because that's the only group of friends you ever had and will know. The fear of picking up a book by Ray Franz is scary when I already know this is not the truth. It's obvious by the lying games elders play, I was part of a group of women who were going to hire a stripper for a girl's bridal shower. Ask yourselves, what kind of elders wives would help the wives of the ministerial servants try to hire a stripper to teach them how to do nasty things? That's what you are getting yourself out of once you begin to leave this Cult! The diseased minds running the local to headquarters don't need Ray Franz's books when it's all right before your eyes if you are able to open them up!
Ministerial Servants taking kids to Metelllica concerts or Pioneers who follow Heavy Metal artist like groupies. One elder was complaining about his son who has been following seven different Heavy Metal bands since 1989, he and his Pioneer wife dress up like Satan's little heavy-metal rock-stars for the night. These are the same freaks that will get up on the platforum and warn you from listening to music, tell you how bad worldy entertainment is. Some of the families are allowing teenagers to drink until their tipsy and the sexual issues are bigger than ex-JWs can even imagine. We are starting to implode from the center to the top, the rampant abuse and hatred we feel towards each other is obscene. Do you really need COC when the wickedness is all around you, just open your eyes in your Kingdom Hall and if you do say you saw something the elders will bury you and force you to leave their Kingdom Hall ASAP! I will read this book, I would not mind divorcing the man who use to lock me in my room for hours and has spent all our retirement money because he does not like to work. Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians, I heard Ray Franz was a Christian so is that book really relevant to a Jehovah's Witness since do not practice the qualities of Christ?
My husband has forced me to hang around with a Pedophile because the local circuit has black-balled this creep! So, imagine how fucked up my life is, my best friend is suppose to be my husband and he think's its a good idea for us to socialize with a pedophile who confessed to all his sins. Who need's Crisis of Conscience when you have a fucked up husband like mine who is in line for being the next Circuit Overseer?
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We Cleaned Out A Hoarding Pioneer's House and Discovered Boxes of Lies! What To Do?
by AuntConnie ini was doing some mild cleaning for one of the local hoarding witness sisters; her house was going to be condemned so we all got together trying to get her house in order because she does not have any worldly family willing to speak to her.
some of the friends decided they would try to guilt her family, her family was very blunt when they said to tell their sister to tell the stealing bitch to go and f-yourself!.
i got in touch with one of her local family members and he was more peaceful and explained why all his family members hated her.
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AuntConnie
I was doing some mild cleaning for one of the local Hoarding Witness Sisters; her house was going to be condemned so we all got together trying to get her house in order because she does not have any worldly family willing to speak to her. Some of the friends decided they would try to guilt her family, her family was very blunt when they said to tell their sister to “Tell the Stealing Bitch to Go and ‘F-yourself’!”
I got in touch with one of her local family members and he was more peaceful and explained why all his family members hated her. It all started when “Sister Hoarder” was supposed to take care of her dying mother and decided to rip off her sickly Mom’s last bits of savings. Hoarder spent all Mom’s medication money and burial expenses on shit for herself; she emptied her Mom’s account dry so she had no funds left to pay for any of her medications while battling cancer. The mother died of a broken a heart, not so much of all her money getting stolen but the fact that her daughter was so sneaky and evil she was willing to take Mom’s last bucks set aside for anti-nausea and pain medications so she could eat out every night until Mom’s funds were gone. The worldly family members chipped in and had to pay out of their own pocket to get Mom her cremation. Sister Hoarder stopped coming around to visit her mother once all the funds had disappeared! I apologized to her brother and said I agree they should let “Sister Hoarder” burn in hell! I was livid she lied to the congregation to get free help so she would not be kicked out of her house she was not willing to lift a finger herself. I put the word out what I learned and soon the help slowed down and the due date for the land-lord to review her house came and he evicted her! The elders were not going to take action because sister hoarder was out in service for long hours each day and placed the most magazines in the circuit and the audience loved her parts and demons on Special Day Assemblies.
Some of the friends felt guilty and took almost everything from her house after she agreed it was better to gut her house instead of living in some type of institution. The dump truck came and loaded up all her trash, anything that looked valueless was tossed in the trash. When we went to the dump, the truck emptied all its stuff and Watchtowers and Awakes’ by the thousands were flying all over the place. This crazy old bat claimed she was placing one hundred magazines of the Watchtower and Awake stuck them in her garage. She had more books than a Watchtower Semi-Truck delivering to a Convention, it was all a lie! When the dump trucks were done emptying all her items, I took a few photos of thousands of Watchtowers and Awakes the lying bitch claimed she placed each month. Will the Governing Body back out all those placements as fraudulent placements? Soon the seagulls showed up checking out the old buckets of KFC and other rotting goodies Sister Hoarder left behind! Than I thought of a great part, how could we make such a horrible lie make the Witnesses regain their faith in Sister Hoarder the Special Pioneer?
I thought of some half-cocked story how a Seagull gets a Watchtower stuck to his leg and fly’s off in the direction of Hobo-Alley, the poor Hobo take’s the time to help get this trash off the Seagull and the Hobo read’s the Magazine “When Will Poverty and Hunger End?”. Harry the Hobo think’s this is a message from God, God sent this Seagull to deliver a divine message. Harry locates the Jehovah’s Witnesses and tells them how this Seagull carried what he was looking for. Harry never had a house, he’s been homeless and his Jehovah Witness family disowned him years ago because he never wanted the Truth and now Harry realizes that God has a plan for him. God is going to give Harry a new home and he will never want for food once the Paradise Earth becomes a reality. Harry is baptized after six months and his JW family still doesn’t trust him because they think he is using religion as a scam to pretend he is religious and the local Hall who brought him into the Truth will find out the truth about Harry once they get to know him! Time passes on and Harry becomes a elder and his family now hate him even more because the Congregation he belongs to think they are heartless bitches and dicks and the hatred of this loving religions grows and grows because of the Seagull from God!
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looking for quote about research own religion
by Aussie Oz ini am looking for some sort of quote to show the kids that its ok to investigate their own religion.
something from a recent book or watchtower would be great!.
like... nothing to fear, we have nothing to hide, truth can stand investigation, make sure of it foryourself sort of thing i guess!.
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AuntConnie
Hi Auzzie,
Your key to this mystery is to look up all the publications the Watchtower Society has printed to a Islamic audience. Everything the Watchtower Society has written geared toward Muslims asked the reader to review their own religion to make sure it's true to the founder of their faith's ideas.
The Brochure "Submission" for Islamic followers has got to be the biggest forked-tongue brochure I read, they beg the children of the Prophet to do their duty and research all religious backgrounds of their childhood and make sure lies and falsehoods were not told or covered over. What? Has the Watchtower Society ever told lies and covered over their misdeeds with falsehoods, why can't Witnesses do the same things the Slave want's the world to do?
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So are Republicans now openly terrorists?
by Simon inthey seem determined to undermine the us democracy and shut the government down hurting employees and veterans.. what a despicable bunch, hope they get their asses kicked for what they are doing..
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AuntConnie
"Keep Government Out Of My Medicare" "Keep Government Out Of My Social Security"
Simon those are actually Tea-Party Slogans and bumperstickers on Tea-Bagging citizens, did Social medicine destroy Canada with it's robust economy?
I like the new Ads being shown, some size 50 underwear my Pumpkin might be able to fit into! Hoorah!
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Found an Old Letter
by Scully ini was going through an old file folder a few days ago and came across this letter i wrote to our old congregation regarding renovations that had been proposed.
at the time, i was very upset with the way the proposals were steam-rollered through (i think the sentiment comes across nicely in my letter lol).
has anything like this ever happened elsewhere??
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AuntConnie
Around 1989-1990 the Real Estate was close to coming to the end of it's frothy bubble. Witnesses decided to pay top dollar for a Kingdom Hall where Ray Publisher use to attend. Two elders were opposed and wrote that the Economy was looking bad, friends were finding it tough to make their home payments and it was not going to work on it's own merit. The Elders told everyone in the Kingdom Hall to vote for the Albatross and just as the two complaining rebel elders predicted, the Witnesses who paid top dollar bought before the Market crashed harder than 2008-2009 dollar wise.
It was a mess, construction stalled back and forth, every congregation in Santa Barbara County to North of the Grade was asked to donate $500 to $800 a month to help this mess out. Some Kingdom Halls were hurting financially badly, still the elders said "Jehovah will take care of this" and we all lived with talks from the Circuit Overseers and local Elders begging for everyone to donate money to the Kingdom Hall Two-Hall Complex. For years we listened to the "Begging Talks" and "Local Needs" parts about "Letting go of our possessions to help the Oceano Kingdom Hall Albatross." Publishers never get a say in these things, even when the forum was allowed to address the concerns of two of the Window Cleaning Elders, they were steam-rolled by Zealots wanting to please the Organization at the cost of begging for money from all the Kingdom Halls in two counties!
Again, the idiots at this Two-Plex started to plan remolding during the 2008 economic meltdown, they asked for the friends help in 2009 for six figures to get things going. Why do the wise elders always pick the economic meltdowns when brothers and sisters suffering from unemployment in the construction field (that's most of the jobs in our two counties for JWs)to proceed with costly burdens and punishing yokes Jesus said would not exist with his true followers?