Thanks, Sparky 1.
Mickey probably bit off more than he could chew in marrying a lady he was attracted to who did not share ANY of his interests.
As far as I know, at a certain point in time (after the movie THE EXORCIST) was released, Kingdom Halls were abuzz with almost nothing else but "demons" and being "demonized."
My mother, for example!
So, Mrs. Spillane might have walked into one of "those" situations and a Q & A standing around before or after the meeting could well have spooked her.
Let me know if you find out anything. It would be nice to put to rest many of rumors without evidence and to nail down those with facts to back them up.
TerryWalstrom
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Spillane, Mickey Spillane--Cool Brother Spillane-naked wife on the cover
by TerryWalstrom inspillane, mickey spillane.
he pulled no punches and his pen was as fast as his gun.
after all, it took almost three whole weeks for mickey to type his first novel.
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Spillane, Mickey Spillane--Cool Brother Spillane-naked wife on the cover
by TerryWalstrom inspillane, mickey spillane.
he pulled no punches and his pen was as fast as his gun.
after all, it took almost three whole weeks for mickey to type his first novel.
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In an interview for People magazine, Spillane said, "I’m not a tough guy. Every time my wife gets wise with me, I punch her right in the mouth --with my lips."
Spillanes' 3rd wife was interviewed. (The naked blonde)
"Sherri on Mickey:The first time I met Mickey, I’d never heard of him. I thought he was a gangster. He was very violent and began knocking me around and pulling my hair. I had just left school and was modeling for the back cover of Mickey’s book The Girl Hunters. The photo session was meant to last an hour, but it went on for three and ended up with Mickey and me necking. That night he asked me out for dinner and told me he was going to marry me. I thought he was crazy. Then he gave me his high school ring off his finger and said, “We’re engaged.” Mickey was the first man I ever went with.
I think the only reason Mickey and I stayed together so long is because we were apart such a lot. When we’re together, we drive each other crazy. The longest we are ever together is about a month. We have at least three or four arguments a day. We have absolutely nothing in common except that we love each other. His house in South Carolina is right on the beach, and I hate the water. Mickey likes to go fishing all day, but I hate boats and the smell of fish.
He keeps all my old clothes, and when I throw something out he’ll keep it because it reminds him of something. I throw things out like crazy. He doesn’t like to go anywhere. He just likes to hang around in a pair of cut-off jeans, no shoes and a dirty old T-shirt and watch television.
We also fight over money. I think money is to be spent. I love to spend money on clothes and jewelry. I like presents that cost a lot of money, so Mickey buys me diamonds and minks. I buy Mickey silly presents. I once bought him a pair of lovebirds, and the male loved the female to death.
If I could change anything in my life, I’d change Mickey so that he enjoyed all the things I like to do. Then we could spend time together—and not fight all the time."
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READ THIS INTERVIEW. It sounds like his wife is lying:
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/07/10/Detective-writer-Mickey-Spillanes-ex-wife-testified-Thursday-that-he/8358521352000/ -
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Spillane, Mickey Spillane--Cool Brother Spillane-naked wife on the cover
by TerryWalstrom inspillane, mickey spillane.
he pulled no punches and his pen was as fast as his gun.
after all, it took almost three whole weeks for mickey to type his first novel.
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If the DF stories are founded in truth, it may be that Mickey was DF'd when he needed the money :)
The GB back in the 50's is a far cry from the Torquemada Inquisition of today.
For a few decades, the GB has become full-blown Pharisee unleashed as ethics officers of the Universe.
G.O.D. (Guardians of Doctrine).
Torquemada would be proud and the Inquisition in full force, if Watchtower minions could get away with it.
Still, all in all, no JW should have been able to complain because that would mean they read such tawdry "trash" in the first place.
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Spillane, Mickey Spillane--Cool Brother Spillane-naked wife on the cover
by TerryWalstrom inspillane, mickey spillane.
he pulled no punches and his pen was as fast as his gun.
after all, it took almost three whole weeks for mickey to type his first novel.
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Spillane, Mickey Spillane
He pulled no punches and his pen was as fast as his gun.
After all, it took almost three whole weeks for Mickey to type his first novel
I, THE JURY.
MIKE HAMMER, whose private eye name is never written without somebody tacking on the phrase: “hard-boiled detective,” sold books galore to the delight of publishers about to discover a new phenomenon.
But wait--there’s more to Mickey Spillane than his success as a writer.
Spillane was a member of puritanical, doomsday religious cult!
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Mickey Spillane’s first novel, I- THE JURY, was also released in a new form, a new technology of the day called the “pocketbook” or paperback.
(Paperback books (small/cheap)---needed a 3rd element to explode:
Sensation, Sex, Simplicity.)
Mickey Spillane’s MIKE HAMMER was all that and more!
The hardback sold a respectable 4,000 copies.
The paperback version sold--not thousands--but millions.
More than 225 million copies of his books have sold internationally.
Reading a hardback was for eggheads and respectable titles.
You could hide a paperback if somebody looked your way--get it?
A paperback was cheap, two-bits cheap, cheaper than a hardback. (Five bucks.)
Covers were garish, eye-catching, and lurid and married up perfectly with
Spillane’s antihero who could be a real blunt-force trauma of a man.
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Who was this guy, Spillane?
A tough Irishman?
Yep.
He’d joined the army right after the bombing of Pearl Harbor and served as a flight instructor. When he mustered out, he tried creating...a comic book hero named MIKE DANGER...but Danger didn’t fly, bounce bullets, or have X-ray vision.
Besides, kids only like their eggs hard-boiled.
Spillane the man was terse, quiet, and matter-of-fact.
Surprisingly, he was also a Jehovah’s Witness.
A JW knocked on his door and convinced him of "The Truth" in 1951.This public and private persona may seem odd at first glance--but, once one myself, I can tell you leading a double life is what it’s all about.
Brother Spillane’s gritty prose was a necessary counterbalance to the straitlaced, puritanical side of the door knocking evangelistic cult.
This was his gulp of “fresh air.”
Reality?Fictional reality!
Jehovah’s Witnesses see life as black and white and the narrative driving their Universe is a simple story of Good VS Evil. JW’s are a male-dominated religion of men who are the “head” of the family and the Sisters need to know their place in the grand scheme of things. God is a Big Kahuna who’ll strike down men, women, children, animals--hell, don’t get in his way!
(A subconscious MIKE HAMMER?)
I, THE JURY reflects such a worldview.
At the end of this novel, MIKE HAMMER does something to a woman which shocked readers at the time. It also titillated them. They wanted more.
A career was born which lasted into the late 1990’s.
Every time a new MIKE HAMMER novel was published, a cub reporter was dispatched to track Mickey down and corner him with silly questions--always the same ones. Mickey always looked bored and cynical. He had a crewcut like a naval recruit and he suffered no fools.
The very picture of a Christian evangelist!
He’d tell the cub reporter he only wrote: “for the money.”
"I don't give a hoot about reading reviews. What I want to read is the royalty checks."
His style? Self-parody.
“He took off like a herd of turtles.”
Or, “Her breasts were laughing things.” _______________________________
His view of homosexuals and blacks was gratuitous and mean-spirited. Nuanced? What’s a “nuance?”
As one writer remarked, “...the virgin/whore complex Hammer had towards women and particularly in regards to his peculiar relationship with Velda, his long-suffering secretary, was nothing short of just plain twisted.”
Heck--that’s just a Jehovah’s Witness viewpoint!
A reviewer observed, “Hammer novels possess a fierce, driving energy and white-hot passion that cannot be denied; one that drags the reader along in its wake and keeps them turning pages.”
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Mickey Spillane, the man?
"I'm actually a softie. Tough guys get killed too early... I've got a full head of hair and don't wear eyeglasses... And I've kept the smoke coming out of the chimney for a very long time."
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"Spillane broke down the barriers, where sex and violence were concerned, and this pissed people off. Also, he was perceived as right-wing. The vigilante approach Hammer used turned the stomachs of many liberals... (Spillane) is number three, after Hammett and Chandler (in a list of the 10 most important detective novelists of the 20th century).
Anyone who doesn't recognize Spillane's importance is an idiot."
James Bond and Dirty Harry all rolled into one.
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Spillane’s writing tips?
1. Something’s got to happen.
2. Don’t take your reader where he wants to go. Tease them. Go against expectations.
3. Keep your sequels short and to the point. Forget inner dialogue and motivation. Move it along.
4. Let your Detective discover clues and identities he doesn’t share with the reader. It keeps them glued to the page.
5. Sex and violence, in their varying degrees, are really the only two colors on the writer’s palette.
6. Only write when you’re broke. Spillane only wrote when he needed money and spent the rest of his time deep-sea fishing
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As a Jehovah’s Witness, Spillane went door to door. He didn’t kick them in and force Bible study at the point of a gun. Nope, he was mild-mannered and polite. As publicity for or against the Watchtower Organization--the truth is this. He was a “man’s man” and that’s what JW men like to think about themselves. Married and divorced 3 times, Spillane remained a golden boy to Watchtower leaders
When he died of cancer, a memorial service was held July 29 at the Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom Hall near Spillane's Murrells Inlet home, about 80 miles northeast of Charleston.
Spillane had helped build that Kingdom Hall with his own two hands.
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I knew a JW Brother while I lived in California who used to play chess secretly in the local park.
(Chess is frowned upon as too war-like. Giggle giggle.) His name was Brother Kurt Rossit.He told me in the course of conversation that he knew Brother Spillane when he lived near Myrtle Beach, SC.
“When Brother Spillane was assigned a talk (sermon) in the Ministry School, he’d show up in a Hawaiian shirt. You couldn’t make him wear a necktie! How he got away with it--I don’t exactly know. His attendance was spotty. Spillane tooled around in bright white tennis shoes, wearing his military-style crew-cut which gave the gossipers a fit. He went his own way and was considered cool by the men in high places.”
Kurt told me a story I wanted to believe whether it was true or not.
“Spillane liked to hang out at the bars. He’d invariably get into a religious argument. One time he reached into his back pocket and counted out a thousand dollars in cash and bet everybody in the bar they couldn’t find one scripture in the Bible to support the Trinity.”
The Brothers in Spillane’s congregation loved to go water skiing with him or fishing. He was like the cool dad they wish they’d had. They could be themselves around him, cuss, talk dirty about women and sex and not feel like he’d rat them out.
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There has always been gossip among JW’s that Spillane “kept getting Disfellowshipped” for his trashy and prurient books. I have NEVER been able to verify this. Witnesses are among the biggest gossips on earth, from my experience. If you know or think you know some juicy tidbit, you repeat it as though it were sworn testimony. As far as I know, Brother Mickey Spillane got off scot-free. If you know different (and can prove it) I’d love to see your evidence :)
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I never met Brother Spillane. I met plenty of shady JW’s in my time--but not the creator of MIKE HAMMER. More’s the pity--I think I’d have liked him! Wouldn't you?
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https://www.pinterest.com/carlosabio/portadas-mickey-spillane/?lp=true
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Leah Remini (Scientology expose' series) "May turn attention to Jehovah's Witnesses next"
by TerryWalstrom inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4935392/leah-remini-turn-attention-jehovah-s-witnesses.html.
remini said that she was warned of the jehovah’s witnesses that 'these f----rs are super powerful,' but is not one to cower in fear.. 'are you ready for my response?
'i don’t give a s--- about powerful.
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My "sources" tell me A&E has been approached by activists and a plethora of hard evidence and documentation has been laid before the powers that be. I'm sure the part about child molestation is a motivating factor.
This headline (see O.P.) might be a carefully designed trial balloon to see what sort of reaction is forthcoming to gauge the magnitude of interest.
There is no end to the personal testimonies available to sift through and find the most presentable and compelling ones for presentation.
I think there is probably more latent interest in Jehovah's Witness than we might, at first, imagine due to the fact EVERYBODY has had an encounter with JW's in their life and has undoubtedly wondered what "all that" is about.
Scientologists don't knock on your door. You go to them. I've actually met few other people who intimately knew a Scientologist or even met one.
One of my best friends in California during the 10 years I lived there (1974 -- 1984) was a devoted Scientologist, Mark Groseclose (fill-in drummer for the Beach Boys, and painter, T-shirt designer).
Mark talked non-stop about all things Scientology. I accompanied him to the Celebrity Center in downtown Hollywood where I was given a tour and I took an introductory lecture while there.
The other Scientologist I knew and had dealings with was a celebrity photographer, Dick Zimmerman, who kept his "religion" on the quiet.
He photographed just about every magazine cover and album there was in the late 70's. He did a Michael Jackson album (THRILLER). (Zimmerman said he loaned Michael his clothes for the shoot.)
I was in the same room with (but was not introduced to) Tom Cruise's 1st wife (she pulled him to the religion) Mimi Rogers.
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There are a few celebrity Jehovah's Witnesses to speak of and I'm sure much juicy speculation can be milked about Michael Jackson and Prince. There's also Mickey Spillane, (who nobody will ever remember), Actress Theresa Graves (Get Christie Love), the macho chick from the TV Show LOST, Michelle Rodriguez has repudiated her JW youth. (https://www.interviewmagazine.com/film/michelle-rodriguez#_)
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Supposedly, there are about 15 celebrity ex-JW's who will say bad things. I guess this list might well include some of them:
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Leah Remini (Scientology expose' series) "May turn attention to Jehovah's Witnesses next"
by TerryWalstrom inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4935392/leah-remini-turn-attention-jehovah-s-witnesses.html.
remini said that she was warned of the jehovah’s witnesses that 'these f----rs are super powerful,' but is not one to cower in fear.. 'are you ready for my response?
'i don’t give a s--- about powerful.
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We should collectively create a list of outrageous JW beliefs, behaviors, policies, hurtful coercions, mind control examples and whatnot that would appeal to a broad audience.
We can't just leave it as crazy beliefs one through a hundred. All religions could create such a list.
And we can't really expect people to care too much about how Russell treated his wife or sold Miracle Wheat or how Rutherford drove two 16 cylinder Cadillacs and drank too much.
The human interest side of things is what puts a real emotional stigma on these bastards. The Awake! cover more or less bragging about kids who died refusing blood transfusion is closer to home.
German Bibleforscher (Bible Students) who ended up in Concentration Camps because Rutherford wanted his books distributed even if people died is more like what shocks public awareness.
I'm sure with all of us working on it--we could present quite a laundry list of talking points episodes could build around. There have been many victims over a century, like stacks of bodies, whose stories must be told.
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Leah Remini (Scientology expose' series) "May turn attention to Jehovah's Witnesses next"
by TerryWalstrom inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4935392/leah-remini-turn-attention-jehovah-s-witnesses.html.
remini said that she was warned of the jehovah’s witnesses that 'these f----rs are super powerful,' but is not one to cower in fear.. 'are you ready for my response?
'i don’t give a s--- about powerful.
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Remini said that she was warned of the Jehovah’s Witnesses that 'these f----rs are super powerful,' but is not one to cower in fear.
'Are you ready for my response?' she said. 'I don’t give a s--- about powerful. The truth is what I care about.'
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Sexual Depredation as a function of male society by men of a Certain Age
by TerryWalstrom ini would like to remind those folks younger than i that it was very few years ago when almost the entire planet earth was run by and for the benefit of men.women have throughout history been the property of men.due to religious restrictions, teachings, and fundamentalist doctrines, women in the largest societies on earth right now (muslim, chinese, n.korean) have almost no human rights at all.next year, in june, women will, for the 1st time, be allowed in arabia to drive---but--only if they are 30 years old or older, and for only a few hours per day!the old testament laws (read through them sometime) are horrifying reflective of prejudice toward gender, bodily cleanliness, guilt-tripping, and anonymity.
(what was noah's wife's name?
lot's wife?
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(How do you know? Did they tell you specifically, "Alan did his thing, but I don't find it degrading or insulting"?
Or are you interpreting their lack of comment to you, specifically, as acceptance of his behavior?)
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I worked with the same people for about 6 years and most of them had worked together long before I started. I DID ask the women because it struck me as astonishing how they brushed Alan's "comedy" away.
The consistent reply was that they knew Alan was harmless. He had a sly and quirky sense of humor which was dry.
It has only just now dawned on my WHY the company policy was founded on subjective individual assessment: each person has a sense of boundaries unique to themselves alone.
I could arguably compare it to a sense of humor. You can't declare something to be officially "funny" or not funny.
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Sexual Depredation as a function of male society by men of a Certain Age
by TerryWalstrom ini would like to remind those folks younger than i that it was very few years ago when almost the entire planet earth was run by and for the benefit of men.women have throughout history been the property of men.due to religious restrictions, teachings, and fundamentalist doctrines, women in the largest societies on earth right now (muslim, chinese, n.korean) have almost no human rights at all.next year, in june, women will, for the 1st time, be allowed in arabia to drive---but--only if they are 30 years old or older, and for only a few hours per day!the old testament laws (read through them sometime) are horrifying reflective of prejudice toward gender, bodily cleanliness, guilt-tripping, and anonymity.
(what was noah's wife's name?
lot's wife?
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The last company I worked for supplied videos emphasizing the precise definition of sexual harassment.
It went like this:
IF the other person thinks what you said or did was harassing, IT WAS.
I remember being a bit dumbfounded by such a subjective definition.
I made the terrible mistake of asking, "Should we view our pay scale by the same standard?"
The point I was missing (probably due to my age and social conditioning) is that certain people just don't get it.
I still don't get the subjective part entirely, but that doesn't mean I'm exempt from observing company policy.
One fellow who worked at the same company seemed to get away with the most egregious behavior simply because his persona made him acceptable.
He'd stand next to a female worker who has hunkered down shelving books on lower shelves (we were a bookstore) and pretended to unzip his pants as he said, "Hey--while you're down there--could you do me a favor?"
His name was Alan, and no female employee ever found his actions degrading or insulting. Therefore: I guess they weren't.
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Sexual Depredation as a function of male society by men of a Certain Age
by TerryWalstrom ini would like to remind those folks younger than i that it was very few years ago when almost the entire planet earth was run by and for the benefit of men.women have throughout history been the property of men.due to religious restrictions, teachings, and fundamentalist doctrines, women in the largest societies on earth right now (muslim, chinese, n.korean) have almost no human rights at all.next year, in june, women will, for the 1st time, be allowed in arabia to drive---but--only if they are 30 years old or older, and for only a few hours per day!the old testament laws (read through them sometime) are horrifying reflective of prejudice toward gender, bodily cleanliness, guilt-tripping, and anonymity.
(what was noah's wife's name?
lot's wife?
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Those who are most "surprised" by Weinstein are probably the least informed, i.e. "young".
I'm so old (70) I remember the water fountains marked "WHITE" and "COLORED".
I remember "people of color" riding only on the back of the bus.
I remember when the only people hanged (i.e. lynched) for rape were black.
Until the late 1950's the word "rape" was never spoken aloud. It was actually whispered. But then, so was the word "pregnant"!
Society was filled with cigarette smoke on buses, airplanes, in restaurants (while you were eating somebody with a cigar could light up next to you) in elevators, in grocery stores, etc.
Litter was everywhere you looked.
People BURNED their garbage in their backyard!
Oh, I could go on and on about the positive changes in society during my lifetime.
It isn't too surprising the sexual changes necessary (power/sex/harassment) is the last bastion to erode.
When we look at the amount of time it took from the freeing of slaves until Civil Rights Act legislation, we shouldn't be too surprised if sexual harassment takes another century of unmasking and prosecution to make much progress.In fact, I won't actually BELIEVE anything is changing unless Weinstein does time in jail.
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