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Episode 16 of the Constitutional podcast [or transcript]: ‘The 1st Amendment’ Story: How JW's powerfully transformed 1st Amendment law
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-leadership/wp/2018/01/29/episode-16-of-the-constitutional-podcast-the-first-amendment/?utm_term=.9d8940ba6280.
episode 16 of the constitutional podcast: ‘the first amendment’.
by lillian cunningham .
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TerryWalstrom
Below is a Washington Post article on 1st Amendment Rightsand how Jehovah's Witnesses are champions of our Freedoms.What follows is MY RESPONSE to that article.Jehovah's Witness legal tactics in ‘Defending First Amendment Rights’was predicated upon a fraudulent premise of authority.Beginning in 1929, Watchtower President J.F.Rutherford unilaterally changed the historically accepted interpretation of Romans 13: 1,2.This verse had, for over 2,000 years, been taken at face value; to wit: obedience to the government was incumbent upon Christians because it was God who had appointed them in their authority. In the Watchtower magazine, Judge Rutherford reversed the interpretation summarily! ("The Higher Powers", Watch Tower, June 1929, pages 163-169, 179-185)The official history of Jehovah's Witnesses, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN THE DIVINE PURPOSE, says about this change:" There were many false doctrines and practices that had not yet been cleaned out of the organization. Not all of them were recognized at once, but gradually over the years that followed it became evident to what extent the brothers had been in Babylonish captivity at that time. With considerable misunderstanding they had accepted earthly political governments as the "superior authorities" that God had ordained according to Romans 13: 1; and as a result, the Witnesses had been held in fear of man, particularly the civil rulers ."(Chapter 14, Par. 1) As you can see, even in 1959, Jehovah's Witnesses were still convinced the governmental and civil authorities were not to be submitted to, nor feared.Why bother with this old set of facts?During the Nazi era, Rutherford instructed German Bible Students to ignore Hitler's curtailment of public distribution of printed materials.From the year 1922, the German branch of the Bible Students (called Earnest Bible Students) had been banned for their door-to-door peddling and preaching in the streets. 5,000 arrests were made. By 1932, charges were still pending in 2,300 cases.Rutherford insisted German Witnesses hold a high profile and engage in banned public preaching campaigns leading to their arrest. Watchtower articles practically encouraged martyrdom.In the November 1, 1933, issue, printed a month later in German, Rutherford wrote:“Some will say: ‘If in the face of so much persecution and opposition we continue to go out amongst the people and publicly tell these truths, then I fear we may be killed.’That is true, and probably many of the faithful will be killed because they continue to faithfully proclaim the truth which they have learned in the secret place of the Most High god.” (Watchtower, November 1, 1933. p. 328)Additionally, in his Historical Dictionary of Jehovah's Witnesses, page 73, by George D. Chryssides states:"Of the 25,000 Witnesses and Earnest Bible Students in Germany, 13,400 spent at least some time serving prison sentences. According to Gestapo files, more than half recanted."13,400 German Witnesses spent time in prisons, often for years. 2,000 died. 270 were executed. (History of the Holocaust: A Handbook and Dictionary, pp. 218, 239, 266, 448, by Abraham J. Edelheit and Hershel Edelheit (Boulder, CO: Westview Press, 1994)Why did this happen? Because the President of the Watchtower had reversed the traditional Christian understanding of Romans 13: 1,2 and substituted his own authority in its place.Jehovah's Witness legal tactics in ‘Defending First Amendment Rights’was predicated upon a fraudulent premise of authority.I'll make one further point in support of this thesis.On November 23, 1954, in Scotland, Douglas Walsh was selected to be a test case regarding conscripted Jehovah's Witnesses. In the course of this trial, Vice-president Frederick Franz, and attorney Hayden C. Covington testified under oath. Within the questioning and testimony, a definitive statement was made, to wit: Jehovah's Witnesses are required, upon penalty of disfellowship (excommunication), to accept, believe, and carry out as though true, teachings which they personally do not conscientiously accept as legitimate, even if those teachings are later changed, nullifying the original 'truth'. (Transcript of trial: https://archive.org/details/WalshTrial)I would argue the actions of Jehovah's Witnesses against their own interests, and the interests of their local community, as well as nationally, were coerced by fear of excommunication in extremis, or at least insidiously coaxed into their beliefs through loyalty and disinformation.What is my interest in all of this?I served time in Federal prison from 1967-69 as a 'neutral' Jehovah's Witness as a result of a conviction for violation of the Universal Military Training and Service Act.I was privately counseled by my congregation leaders not to accept alternative civilian service. I was further counseled not to reveal I had been influenced in any way by other than my own conscience. This same deliberately invisible influence was carried out as coordinated policy nationwide.During the Vietnam war, 5,000 draft-age men turned in their draft cards rather than be conscripted. These were protests. 200,000 men were accused by the Federal Government of being Draft Offenders. 25,000 were indicted. Out of the 25,000, only 8,750 were convicted. Out of the 8,750 who were convicted, only 4,000 were imprisoned. Most of these, with some exceptions, were young men--Jehovah's Witnesses, like myself, who surrendered our loyalty to an organization and its leaders claiming to speak on behalf of the only true God.Five years before my appearance before a draft board, the Watchtower Society had quietly and unceremoniously changed the official interpretation of Romans 13: 1,2 rather quietly, flip-flopping back to the traditional plain reading Christendom had held for two thousand years!In fact, JW texts I was operating from had not been updated to include this change. I found out the hard way!The Watchtower headquarters would not provide me with a membership card nor a letter attesting to my ministerial status. I later found out this was only provided in special cases where a "special Pioneer" was involved who spent 100 to 150 hours monthly knocking doors.I had the legal right to serve alternate service working in a hospital--had it not been for the private counsel of my JW elders in strict accord with their covert (by this time) policies on Christian neutrality.This policy too, like the previous Romans 13: 1, 2 policy, reversed many years later. Apparently, the malleable nature of Watchtower ‘truth’ repudiates its value as the divine mind channeled by an Almighty.First Amendment champions? I think not!This religion is fraudulent in premise and has a historical track record of trampling on human rights.______ -
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Big Questions
by TerryWalstrom inbig questionslook at the entire history of humanity on earth and ask:"what is it people really want?
"on the flip side: "what is it which keeps holding us back?
"______no matter how bad or good our life is at any one moment we can imagine a better life.we can imagine a place "over there" greener, more beautiful, with rivers of purest water; a land of milk and honey.but wait--before you turn away with a yawn.... one more thing.. that gap--that space--between here and there, demands of us an irresistible passion to cross over.. we seek: a better life.. we find a "bridge" to buy which promises us a guarantee: whether it is god or utopia or diet and meditation--we each, in our own way, find: the answer.. the lowest form of human consciousness?.
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Charles Gillette21 hours ago21 hours ago
Terry! I just finished reading "Heavens on Earth: The scientific search for the afterlife, Immortality, and Utopia." By Michael Shermer
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Big Questions
by TerryWalstrom inbig questionslook at the entire history of humanity on earth and ask:"what is it people really want?
"on the flip side: "what is it which keeps holding us back?
"______no matter how bad or good our life is at any one moment we can imagine a better life.we can imagine a place "over there" greener, more beautiful, with rivers of purest water; a land of milk and honey.but wait--before you turn away with a yawn.... one more thing.. that gap--that space--between here and there, demands of us an irresistible passion to cross over.. we seek: a better life.. we find a "bridge" to buy which promises us a guarantee: whether it is god or utopia or diet and meditation--we each, in our own way, find: the answer.. the lowest form of human consciousness?.
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TerryWalstrom
snare&racket
If you don’t think you have ever been motivated by genetics to do anything....
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Read my reply c-a-r-e-fully...
"I don't think I've ever been consciously "motivated" by DNA genetics
per se."
I make an effort to say exactly what I mean.
Conscious choice, to me, carries with it aware grasp of pragmatic decision-making as opposed to instinctive emotional reactions. (I'm attracted to brunettes, for example).Also, I did say "I take your point, however."
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Big Questions
by TerryWalstrom inbig questionslook at the entire history of humanity on earth and ask:"what is it people really want?
"on the flip side: "what is it which keeps holding us back?
"______no matter how bad or good our life is at any one moment we can imagine a better life.we can imagine a place "over there" greener, more beautiful, with rivers of purest water; a land of milk and honey.but wait--before you turn away with a yawn.... one more thing.. that gap--that space--between here and there, demands of us an irresistible passion to cross over.. we seek: a better life.. we find a "bridge" to buy which promises us a guarantee: whether it is god or utopia or diet and meditation--we each, in our own way, find: the answer.. the lowest form of human consciousness?.
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TerryWalstrom
I don't think I've ever been consciously "motivated" by DNA genetics per se.
I take your point, however.|
The urge, the instinct for sex is not a choice in humans any greater or lesser than animals. It can be moderated through force of will and indoctrinations, of course. Especially if you manage to sleep without a pillow between your knees :)
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What’s with Pastor Russell and Miracle Wheat ?
by CovertsadJW ini have researched pastor russell and miracle wheat , has any one found out some interesting information?
it seems he sold the wheat at a premium and promised 5 x yield ?
he denies selling - as he did not know , but he is a snake oil salesman.
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TerryWalstrom
The famous PYRAMID tombstone for Pastor Russell was designed by the same Brother Bohnet who conducted the funeral. It is Bohnet who offered to donate the famous wheat to the Watch Tower.
In 1905 a Watchtower booklet called "Features of the Plan of God" is written by J. A. Bohnet.
Bohnet's 1910 letter to the Russell in the Watchtower:
The Watch Tower, October 1, 1910, page 307
MIRACLE WHEAT AND MIRACLE RYETwo grains of this wheat were given to the Editor, who, in turn, handed them to a brother in the Truth, who reported that the two grains produced 1,312, which, planted, produced five pounds -- one grain having fifty stools of well-developed stalks or straws. The brother planted the miracle wheat alongside of some ordinary wheat, and reports that the miracle wheat heads are from three to five inches long and from three to five grains to the mesh, whereas with the common wheat the heads are from two to three inches in length.
Another brother obtained some of the miracle wheat and, out of the first crop, presented the Editor a peck of the same. This was entrusted to another brother, a farmer, who has just handed the Editor $100 proceeds therefrom, with the following report: --
As you remember, I secured also a peck of the miracle wheat from a brother in the Truth as a donation to yourself (because he first heard of the miracle wheat through THE WATCH TOWER).
Brother Kuesthardt advertised the wheat in his paper, and the money sent you is the result of the sales at $1 per pound.
Your brother in Christ,
J. A. BOHNET
____The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of New York, located at 25 Columbia Heights in Brooklyn, New York was incorporated in 1909 in the State of New York as a Private Company, by Charles Taze Russell and several of his followers.
Previously they incorporated as the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society under the laws of Pennsylvania as a Nonprofit corporation under the date of December 15, 1884.The United States Investment Co. Ltd. was incorporated June 24, 1896, in Pittsburg, PA.
From the records in Pittsburg:
"'Article 1. Names of Subscribers: John A. Bohnet, Ernest C. Henninges, Chas. T. Russell.
"'Amount Subscribed by Each: Bohnet $5.00; Henninges $5.00; Russell $990.00.
"'Article 3. For purpose of buying and selling real estate, patent rights, stocks, bonds, and other securities, merchandise, building homes, etc.
"'Article 4. Name of Association is U.S. Investment Co., Ltd.
"'Article 6. Officers--… C. T. Russell, Manager.'
Russell needed two "straw men" to make up the required number of three for incorporation. One would assume he would choose two men that he could trust. Note the name John A. Bohnet and the date of 1896.(Note: the 3rd man in the above document ended up marrying Rose Ball and moving her to Australia before the famous divorce trial in which Maria Russell claimed her husband had been intimate with the young woman.)
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What’s with Pastor Russell and Miracle Wheat ?
by CovertsadJW ini have researched pastor russell and miracle wheat , has any one found out some interesting information?
it seems he sold the wheat at a premium and promised 5 x yield ?
he denies selling - as he did not know , but he is a snake oil salesman.
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TerryWalstrom
Adjusting for inflation (buying power is the key valuation for money)
Sixty Dollars per bushel back then is approximately the same as
$1,461.62 today. -
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What’s with Pastor Russell and Miracle Wheat ?
by CovertsadJW ini have researched pastor russell and miracle wheat , has any one found out some interesting information?
it seems he sold the wheat at a premium and promised 5 x yield ?
he denies selling - as he did not know , but he is a snake oil salesman.
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TerryWalstrom
http://rlctr.blogspot.com/2016/12/mw01.html
A Pastor Russell apology article
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Big Questions
by TerryWalstrom inbig questionslook at the entire history of humanity on earth and ask:"what is it people really want?
"on the flip side: "what is it which keeps holding us back?
"______no matter how bad or good our life is at any one moment we can imagine a better life.we can imagine a place "over there" greener, more beautiful, with rivers of purest water; a land of milk and honey.but wait--before you turn away with a yawn.... one more thing.. that gap--that space--between here and there, demands of us an irresistible passion to cross over.. we seek: a better life.. we find a "bridge" to buy which promises us a guarantee: whether it is god or utopia or diet and meditation--we each, in our own way, find: the answer.. the lowest form of human consciousness?.
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TerryWalstrom
BIG QUESTIONS
Look at the entire history of humanity on earth and ask:
"What is it people really want?"
On the flip side:
"What is it which keeps holding us back?"
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No matter how bad or good our life is at any one moment we can imagine a better life.
We can imagine a place "over there" greener, more beautiful, with rivers of purest water; a land of milk and honey.
But wait--before you turn away with a yawn...One more thing.
That gap--that space--between HERE and THERE, demands of us an irresistible passion to cross over.
We seek: A BETTER LIFE.
We find a "bridge" to buy which promises us a guarantee: whether it is God or Utopia or Diet and Meditation--we each, in our own way, find: THE ANSWER.
The lowest form of human consciousness?
We sleep. We wake. We toil.
Little by little, we find ways to dull the pain of longing.If you convince yourself--you set about convincing others.
If you stop hoping and believing there is a
"way across the gap"
what then?Look out.
Look around you.
Who is on a golden rat wheel of frenzy?Distraction. Entertainment. Sex, drugs, politics.
Some of us become fanatics selling a brand name dream.
Others shrink into the smallest space possible: despair.BIG QUESTIONS
"What is it people really want?"
On the flip side:
"What is it which keeps holding us back?"No matter who you ask--you will get an answer.
Isn't that amusing?Everybody has an answer.
"KEEP MOVING"
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Dead Wrong (A Tolerance for Ambiguity)
by TerryWalstrom inwhat is your level of tolerance for ambiguity?.
ambiguity is a clunky, uncomfortable word, imho.. .
ambiguity means "open to more than one interpretation".
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President Bill Clinton:
Contending that his statement that "there's nothing going on between us" had been truthful because he had no ongoing relationship with Lewinsky at the time he was questioned, Clinton said, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. ... If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement"
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Parsing, deflecting, obfuscating: an insidious rhetorical art form in the mouths of politicians :) -
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Dead Wrong (A Tolerance for Ambiguity)
by TerryWalstrom inwhat is your level of tolerance for ambiguity?.
ambiguity is a clunky, uncomfortable word, imho.. .
ambiguity means "open to more than one interpretation".
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TerryWalstrom
There is a trap.
Language creates it.
We use our senses to explore real things and our imagination
mocks up sensory sketches of those things--detailed sketches--so we can label our environs. Very useful when communicating with words.
There is--that trap, however.
We can confuse our sketch with the real thing.
Also...
My sketch and your sketch maybe don't quite match.
The innocent party may look like the guilty party and vice verse.
Semiotics is actually a rough sketch of reality USED like a police sketch artist does, to apprehend the suspect.
(We can all say "chair" and be confident. But there are thousands of different kinds--each distinctly different--within that concept).
The potential breakdown comes when we must INTERPRET.
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Perry:
"In 1972, when she was 22 years old, Vesna Vulović was working on a flight that was over the (now) Czech Republic when a bomb explosion in the baggage compartment caused the plane to break apart. The bomb was claimed by a Croat that was a member of a nationalist group, but no official confirmation has been made.Vesna was the only survivor. She fell freely, without a parachute, from a height of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet). The impact got her many severe injuries (fractured skull and vertebrae, as well as broken legs). She also became partially paralyzed and went into a coma for almost a month. She fully recovered from these injuries though and switched to a desk job with the same airline.
Unlike many others who have been through such experiences, she hasn’t developed a fear of flying and has no issues watching movies with plane crashes.
In 1985, she was awarded the Guinness Record title for the highest fall without a parachute."
(https://www.huffingtonpost.com/quora/what-is-the-farthest-some_b_6187372.html)
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I cite the above example not to rebut your reasoning, only to represent the nature of "grayness" in outcome possible in black and white reasonableness.
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As a former Jehovah's Witness, I make much more room for Black Swan events, singularities, and grant the wide berth to "impossibility" without going (I hope) too far in the process.
Religious thinking--when it is most confident in absolutes--is most (potentially) destructive.
Why?
Fanaticism.
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The glass-half-full half-empty scenario is said to REPRESENT
Optimism vs Pessimism but it really is only partially true.
That is a convenient opportunity for analogy and doesn't
NECESSARILY mean anything even remotely connected to our
expectations about life in general.
The same amount of water cannot MEAN (essentially) anything connected to life in general by way of a sign or omen.
We FORCE interpretations.
Eisegesis and Exegesis are exercises of the mind both artificial
and practical.
When employed with care, interpretation is one tool among many.
The Holy books are only what somebody INSISTS they are.
Bibles and Korans and such take on numinous power only if semiotic mumbo jumbo stuffs the turkey with glow-in-the-dark dressing...and a willing (prepared consciousness) is hungry and indiscriminate for the feast.