At the K. Hall. USA.
No ticket required, but need to know English and be baptized
if the original announcement still hold for this weekends 'open' annual meeting, it will be streamed live to (only) english speaking members.
is this still the plan?.
i'm interested in hearing from all on the forum where 'their' program will be broadcast.. our local kingdom hall will be live streaming the meeting.. .
At the K. Hall. USA.
No ticket required, but need to know English and be baptized
i'm a jw, and i have several bills to pay.
me: "oh my goodness, i have so many bills, it's ridiculous!
i have car rego, phone bill, electricity bill, rent...it's terrible!
Zeb : Yes, they don't know how to budget. I now toooonss of them in my cong, with redicoulous amount of credit card debt
Julia : Yes.. totally agree with what you say.. They always have that whine sound like : " poor me.. we only have one car
and we can't afford to fix or buy another one" "poor me I live paycheck to paycheck "
I think sometimes they are envy on my actitud. They have seen me smiling even in difficult times or not complaining about it.
whenever i talk to jw's, and even in some of the jw official videos, i detect a definite vibe of sadness coming off these people.. i am very sensitive to "atmospheres" and to peoples emotional state, you wouldn't think so, because more often than not i do not react to what i detect, i just let people get on with it.. but i do get this feeling that they are sad, probably because very, very, very deep down they realise that it is all false, maybe ?.
Yes, defenetively !
In my cong, there are a bunch of depressed sisters. They usually have some sad story to tell, specially the ones they are pioneers...
(" poor me I don't have $ because I pioneer... - poor me , my car brocked down and I don't have any $.. - poor me I am sick... )
I think they envy the ones that they have a life and laugh, have a decent car, or house or education...
3rdgen, yes, you are right... they gossip about the ones that we have some fun, or make judgments about it.. specially the hard workers self rightouse ones. I think inside they are just miserable and they dont' want to see it.
just got back from meeting.
the study today was as expected.
a combination of simple acceptance, formulaic research and mistakes.. there are clearly many who cannot read a reference (to the wt 95) regarding the sheep and the goats and consider the repetition of the the understanding of the timing of the judging as new light.
Hoser, you made me laugh !! It's totally true
a good friend of mine invited me to a party after her meeting on sunday.
i told her i was not going any longer and she doesn't care.
she also let us know that no other witnesses would be there.
Confused :
you are a brave man. I wish I was like you !!
I totally agree with what your said : " It is moments like this that I realize that anyone who takes this relgion seriously is touched in the head"
They are crazy and make crazy people around them.
it has been several years since my awakening.
since then i have stopped pioneering, stopped doing temp work at bethel, stopped field service (at the most, i went out a few hours a month for the last couple of months), my meeting attendance has been around 50 percent or so.
i have decided not to go back.
Clarity, I sent you a pm !!
former unbaptized publisher, here.. i'm new to the forums and have hesitated for months to join this forum.
i was raised in a jw family, and was never baptized, because one of my parents didn't think i should be baptized early.. my mother became inactive, but i eventually went back for social contact, eventually starting a study.
i raised a few questions, only to find that the conductor would get irritated and defensive when my questions would get deeper into the topic.
Welcome GloomySunday ! My way of thinking was almost like yours. Something doesn't feel right. the rulled of not having "wordly friends" is just nor right
That leaded me to depression. But I found my way out of that dark moments with education !!
i have noticed the extreme lack of love in this group of people who preach love, love, love.. we recently had serious floods come through our area and the jws couldnt have cared less.
our 'worldly' friends did sooo much for us though.
raising money, giving gifts, cards, accomodation and so much support and hard work.. i personally think jws are one of the most insensitive, uncaring religions around.. three religious groups were absolutely wonderful during the flooding of our area.
It's so sad to hear all the unloving stories here .
Ya, I also think that visiting or calling someone in the hall doesn't count in your field service report, so, we don't have to do it...too sad..
Years ago, I told to a group of JW how " nervouse -stressed I was because my father just got a organ tranplant 2 days ago " and nobody said
nothing. It was like I said " the sky is blue "- like I talked to a wall... .
I could not believe it !!!
hello all.. my name is dteve and i live in the uk.
i hope i can make genuine friends here and not pretend friends.....like that among jw's.. i left, went back, and have left again, but this time it is for good.
so i tried to work things out, but she carried on.
Steve :
welcome.
It was horrible what the elders told you... they have NO CLUE what empathy or love is ...
Enjoy life with someone who accepts you the way you are
Pearl
i was shocked i do not know why as i have read that the co's were doing this but to hear it with my own ears was unbelievable.
i do not go to the meetings but my husband still does and this week is the co's visit.
i decided that i would listen in to his talk; i swear i have lost some brain cells by doing it but anywho.. he started out by talking about the old story that has been in the wt many times about a little boy who was seven and raised a chicken and gave the money to the society.
Life is to sort : last visit we had of the CO was about donations as well... I was surprised how much of his talk was dedicated
to that subjet.. I was thinking : "they did not get enough with the REal State sell in NYC " ??
Pearl