i just skimmmed over a lot of angry posts (see all the flames listed below) and i'm in the mood for a little fluff.. what did you have for dinner?
any good recipes to share?
anything nice to say at all?.
What a great thread
Mmy daughter is having surgery tomorrow and since I know first hand how unappetizing hospital food can be;I made her and the rest of the clan sauteed chicken breasts with a can of campbells creme' of chicken on top and added a bunch of mushrooms,spanish rice and spicy G,Beans.
Oh and Turtle Brownies with dessert with some added punch
sOOner
who looks after the welfare of ageing witness parents who have disfellowshipped children?
are these df'd children (actually, some of these df'd children are in their 60's) meant to ignore being ignored and then care physically for their non speaking parents?
also, can df'ing your own children lead to witness parents suffering illness or even death as a result?.
Make my day~
10/4/2002
The phone rang today at 11am. It was mama.Of course I reconized her voice and listened to her.She said again how much she loves me and how things would and could be different.I was pleasant to her and told her I was fine.I also told her how depressed the news had made me and how I had overcome it.I told her that I was sure NOW more then ever that I would never accept a religion that destroyed family units.She said BRO had more or less told her that about me.
It was as loving conversation that is possible considering her main focus is honouring her hovah.She said she thinks of all of her girls and that her health was fair and she was taking her needed medications.She mentioned she had recieved a card (brief) from Karen/Sentinel and had spoken to Polly.She also felt that Polly did not want to be in the middle relaying messages and she understood that.I also informed her that Polly had been told by me before her call to her.The blow was softenned considerably.
She mentioned calling Karen/Sentinel and I told her to save her self being hurt and that I needed to discuss it first with her.I know how Karen/Sentinel feels about the situation and it could be a hurtful thing on both ends.I told mama I will continue to make her labels and such,write once in a while and call every so often.
I asked her how she felt about all of Abraham's people~Ismael and his descendants and Issac and his offspring and all the others before and after that do not carry the label of JW's and how did she believe they ALL would be destroyed????
Of course she said that is all in the written word and even if I did read it,I would not understand it because the light doth not shine on me....well La te da!
I thought to myself(just let it go).
I ended the conversation with my intent that she remains happy,content and steadfast in what makes her happy and fullfilled.I also let her know that I was NOW fine with her decision and what else could I be?
I also assured her of my unconditional love...after all isn't Universal unconditional Love and compassion what it is suppose to be ALL about???
It is her choice.I also said she is getting older and she mentioned how BRO had spoken to her and how it had made her realize that she cannot completely eliminate our responsilities to her.She is OUR mama.
She said our Uncle is much worse.
I have been just letting the days go and come and each day has been one of two things.Either I am very high on enlightment or I am very unconcerned.We each have to make our lives fit patterns that are useful and bring enjoyment to us.I want to show as much love and compassion that I am capable of showing.I apolized to mama for my behavior on first hearing the news.I did not apolize for how it made me feel.
I wake most mornings around 4:44 and I belch,fart and pour a glass of ice tea and think of dad:)That was three of his most favorite things:)
I am having the best of happy and loving dreams.I have been doing more things for my daughter,family and friends. It is in giving that we do recieve.
For me,hearing mama's voice made my day.
sOOner
who looks after the welfare of ageing witness parents who have disfellowshipped children?
are these df'd children (actually, some of these df'd children are in their 60's) meant to ignore being ignored and then care physically for their non speaking parents?
also, can df'ing your own children lead to witness parents suffering illness or even death as a result?.
Hello Englishmen...
I just read your post and was in awe and realized that so much of what was posted in reponse is my feelings to the tee.
When my mama shunned me this past August 30th,I removed her pictures that adorned my walls.I sent out sympathy cards to let others in my immediate family know that she chose once again her hovah over her own children.
So be it...
and Farkel could not have said it better
I quote:
"This may be considered harsh, but any parent who shuns his or her own child, doesn't deserve to receive anything from that child. I can think of no worse pain for a human being than to be totally rejected and treated as dead from that child's own parents"
Que Sera~
sOOner
many of you have already seen this, but there are also many new ones posting and lurking.
this is a little handy reference to help you understand dub-speak.
i've updated it an added a number of new terms and expressions.. ----------------------.
Farkel,
This was a absolute masterpiece.I am reading older posts as I really enjoy the variety here.
It's like a smorgus board of delightful and funny...sometimes very sad stories all told in truth of having been there done that and some are still doing it .
I am one of the three sisters recently shunned that you posted about.
Free at Last
guess what?
today we went to a local pet store, where they have these homeless animals, especially kittens brought in every weekend for a few hours to be adopted out.. we got there at a bit after two, and they were packing up to leave for the day.
but, we had seen a cute kitten and the lady who takes care of these animals in transit, stayed so we could pick out the one we wanted.. mind you, this was one of those spur of the moment decisions.
OK this picture of Purrby is from the site that was mentioned so Rufus could get his picture posted(www.Strike9)
did Purrby show up??
If he didn't can someone in plain English explain the HOW TOO's on this matter.
Thank you~
sOOner
guess what?
today we went to a local pet store, where they have these homeless animals, especially kittens brought in every weekend for a few hours to be adopted out.. we got there at a bit after two, and they were packing up to leave for the day.
but, we had seen a cute kitten and the lady who takes care of these animals in transit, stayed so we could pick out the one we wanted.. mind you, this was one of those spur of the moment decisions.
Here's Purrby.the birds love to ride him
sOOner
i'm coming in here this morning because even though i am learning not to be a victim in this shunning experience "again," i do have feelings and am very sad this morning.
you see, usually about every two weeks or so (at least), i would call my mom early in the morning and say, "hi mom, this is your wake-up call.
" little did i know just how much energy was carried in that message.
Sentinel and Tuning Fork"Can't WE ALL just get Along
I have just survived another close call with the winds of the Hurricane to brush the Keys.
I am stressed and am finding it hard to get out of the bed in the morning,can't sleep at night~
and want to go back to bed at a moments notice.
I have a daughter and grandchildren that DO NOT understand the change in me.
I love you both to infinity~
sOOner
P.S.
Sentinel~
Do you remember cutting off my curls behind the chair??
Tuning Fork~
Do you remember pulling me off the old cooking stove?
Those were the days my sisters,those were the days
i'm coming in here this morning because even though i am learning not to be a victim in this shunning experience "again," i do have feelings and am very sad this morning.
you see, usually about every two weeks or so (at least), i would call my mom early in the morning and say, "hi mom, this is your wake-up call.
" little did i know just how much energy was carried in that message.
Yes I did notice that~
are you at work or home???
Love.
sOOner
i'm coming in here this morning because even though i am learning not to be a victim in this shunning experience "again," i do have feelings and am very sad this morning.
you see, usually about every two weeks or so (at least), i would call my mom early in the morning and say, "hi mom, this is your wake-up call.
" little did i know just how much energy was carried in that message.
My sister,
yes,we have cried enough tears and this has raked us to the core of our being.I also feel in my heart that mama may someday really see the "TRUTH" for what it is.A bunch of fundy dums ruleing her excistence by brainwashing her in to beliefs that are not even in the bible.Well,maybe the NWT but not the KJB.I went through many emotions concerning this...behaved in a not so loving way.I was angry that once again we are barred from her life and she from ours.I want to call and say mama "I really DO understand"When someone tells you that a GB has said that you will risk your very life in a paradise if the RULES are not followed...what choice is given.
Your loved ones or God.
Now read that sentence again...BRAINWASHED is the only word that comes to mind.
It only makes me sad for her,it does not change my LOVE for her.
Your words were encourageing to me as always~
sOOner
how many people here have had close friends or aquaintances in the truth take their own life?
i know that this may be a very deep subject, and i do not mean to dredge up bad memories, but i just ran across the lyrics to vincent aka starry starry night.
it was the first time that i ever actually read the words and it made me think of the jw friends that i have lost due to suicide.
Survivor...
I have always loved that picture Starry Night by Vincent.The words to the song makes one think.
I have often thought that it took a weak minded person to take there own life,but NOW I think it takes in Reality a very strong person in a weak moment to end there life.
Those left behind can only imagine the depths of despair one must feel when they by there own hand take that last journey.
Into the UNKNOWN...
