JeffT
I had the "privelege" of doing the accounts for awhile.
All I can say is that if a secular business kept their books exactly the same way the congregation/organization does they would be in jail!
what if right in the middle of rolling out their latest money-grabbing scheme, there was an uprising demanding financial transparency?.
i thought jehovah was a god of organization and numbers.
isn't that why we report time and have all these annual reports?.
JeffT
I had the "privelege" of doing the accounts for awhile.
All I can say is that if a secular business kept their books exactly the same way the congregation/organization does they would be in jail!
what if right in the middle of rolling out their latest money-grabbing scheme, there was an uprising demanding financial transparency?.
i thought jehovah was a god of organization and numbers.
isn't that why we report time and have all these annual reports?.
Jehovah says no one should approach Him empty-handed.
That's why I don't give even one red cent to the org. THEY are not Jehovah. I prefer to toss my daily loose change in the air, and whatever God wants he is free to catch and keep.
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eww .
.. zed.
Gives new meaning to the phrase, "Don't go off half-cocked!"
look...i am not an atheist.
even so, i have never had one prayer answered my entire life.
the only thing that would even come close was learning ttatt.
Of course I had prayers answered!
Why just last night I prayed that today it would be light during the daytime hours...and verily I say unto thee...IT'S LIGHT!
yay!!!
seriously one of the most watchtarded talks ever.
maybe one of our elders can post the outline??
Either that or simply assume that they - individually - are the ones with the problem.
And that is exactly what they want people to believe. It's YOUR FAULT! If only you would pray more, door knock more, study more, give more time, give more money then, and only then, will you be blessed with happiness.
yay!!!
seriously one of the most watchtarded talks ever.
maybe one of our elders can post the outline??
I admit I am commenting before reading the other comments. But it seems a little out of place to use the term HAPPY in the talk title. I could understand Jehovah's people, or HAPPY people, but not so much Jehovah's HAPPY people. At least not in my observations!
so after being at this weekend's snooze fest i thought the following pretty well summed it all up:.
if it feels good, looks good, sounds good, tastes good, smells good, or is even moderately enjoyable it is from satan!
and if you feel it, look at it, listen to it, taste it, smell it, or even remotely enjoy it you are going to die at armagedon.. if you are too busy, too stressed, or barely able to make financial ends meet, you must pray more, study more, go out door knocking more, and give more money to the organization.. if you are a brother and you have been snubbed, slighted, ignored, bullied, and otherwise passed over for any "advancement" in spite of "reaching out", it is your fault!
@prologos "getting the facts straight behoofs everyone."
You may have a point. I appreciate how JW elderish of you it was to completely miss the point of the comment made, and zero in on trying to correct someone. THANK YOU!
Now I have a question for you, if you would lower yourself to answer this obviously ignorant human. WTF is BEHOOFS?
verb \bi- ˈ hüv, bē-\
: to be necessary or proper for (someone)
im sure this is stretching it a bit and i have lived a sheltered life, however paragraph 8 of todays wt study of marriage of the lamb- says the king's (jehovah) daughter is the 144,000 as adopted children of jehovah.
they are to marry gods son jesus the bridegroom.. yes i know they are not blood relatives, but how often do you hear of adopted kids marrying within their adopted family of brothers or sisters?.
And don't forget that all of the annointed will be "called away" to heaven between phases of the end.
I asked the person next to me, "I thought JW's didn't believe in the Rapture?"
"We don't!", they snarled.
so after being at this weekend's snooze fest i thought the following pretty well summed it all up:.
if it feels good, looks good, sounds good, tastes good, smells good, or is even moderately enjoyable it is from satan!
and if you feel it, look at it, listen to it, taste it, smell it, or even remotely enjoy it you are going to die at armagedon.. if you are too busy, too stressed, or barely able to make financial ends meet, you must pray more, study more, go out door knocking more, and give more money to the organization.. if you are a brother and you have been snubbed, slighted, ignored, bullied, and otherwise passed over for any "advancement" in spite of "reaching out", it is your fault!
So after being at this weekend's snooze fest I thought the following pretty well summed it all up:
If it feels good, looks good, sounds good, tastes good, smells good, or is even moderately enjoyable it is from SATAN! And if you feel it, look at it, listen to it, taste it, smell it, or even remotely enjoy it you are going to die at Armagedon.
If you are too busy, too stressed, or barely able to make financial ends meet, you must pray more, study more, go out door knocking more, and give more money to the organization.
If you are a brother and you have been snubbed, slighted, ignored, bullied, and otherwise passed over for any "advancement" in spite of "reaching out", it is YOUR FAULT! You need to be humble and pray more, study more, go out door knocking more, and give more money to the organization.
Of course the announcement of the finances was read. SAD weekend started with a $3,000 surplus. That plus funds on deposit with the branch (soon to be confiscated by mother) gave a balance before the SAD weekend of $12,000. Elders resolved to send $3,000 to the branch. Expenses were $2,800. "Donations" in the beggiing boxes was $1,200. So we have a deficit brothers of $1,600. WTF???!!??? We are sure you will be self-sacrificing and give generously, and be blessed.
In the afternoon the Hispanic NY company man gave a personal(?) experience about not showing racial prejudice. He stated that growing up in...INDIANA(USA)...everyone was White Europeans. Then due to economic hard times Black people started moving in from the deep South to obtain work...in the STEEL MILLS...of South CHICAGO! And lo and behold a 13 year old Black girl came to school and was a JW from his hall, and she stopped another boy from from bullying him by telliing the bully to, "leave my brother alone!" Ahhh, ain't that sweet? Maybe I am completely clueless, but growing up I always learned that the steel mills were in Pennslyvania, not Chicago. And the last time I looked at a map Chicago wasn't in INDIANA either! But of course 99% of the useful idiots sat around with tears in their eyes, shit eating grins on their mugs, and bobbing their heads up and down like bobble head dolls.
The best part of the whole day was getting to give generously after the afternoon session was done. I "contributed" several slips of paper with I.O.U. $0.00 printed on one side, and JW.Net on the other in the begger boxes.
ive given this new arrangement a lot of detailed thought and how greatly it benefits the wt and how much it puts a strain on each congregation.. first, let me explain how the old arrangement worked.. you had 3 donation boxes in each kingdom hall.
one for worldwide work, one for kingdom hall construction and one for congregation contributions.. the congregation contribution box accounted for about 60-75% of all donations.
the world wide work box probably accounted for 20-30% and the kingdom hall construction for about 5% of the contributions.
Where I am the local KH has only about eleven loan payments left. It should be interesting when this comes up for discussion, if it does, and questions are asked about the loan payments now being forced on the poor of the local KH in perpetuity.
I know for a fact there will be at least one hand in the air for a show of hands "against" the resolution. MINE!