Quote- Ask yourself who do oyu listen to or beleive Jesus Christs own words or man
In light of that... then I will listen to Jesus' words here ... Matt 7:6
johnamos
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The Great Crowd
by seekchristonly inquestion where are the great crowd when paul sees them.
well they are in............. wait for it...............heaven and not on the earth as is taught by some counterfeit kingdoms.
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The Great Crowd
by seekchristonly inquestion where are the great crowd when paul sees them.
well they are in............. wait for it...............heaven and not on the earth as is taught by some counterfeit kingdoms.
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johnamos
Quote- In the 1st century. Jesus told those asking the question some of them would still be alive when he returned
So are you saying that Jesus already returned??? When was that???
Quote- he told them the tribulation was for one time only NEVER to be repeated again.
So did the following already take place???
5 And a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies was given it, and authority to act forty-two months was given it. 6 And it opened its mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name and his residence, even those residing in heaven. 7 And there was granted it to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. 8 And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it; the name of not one of them stands written in the scroll of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered, from the founding of the world.
9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. 10 If anyone [is meant] for captivity, he goes away into captivity. If anyone will kill with the sword, he must be killed with the sword. Here is where it means the endurance and faith of the holy ones.
11 And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon. 12 And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed. 13 And it performs great signs, so that it should even make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.
14 And it misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the signs that were granted it to perform in the sight of the wild beast, while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived. 15 And there was granted it to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who would not in any way worship the image of the wild beast.
16 And it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
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2 And I saw, and, look! a white horse; and the one seated upon it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went forth conquering and to complete his conquest.
3 And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say: “Come!” 4 And another came forth, a fiery-colored horse; and to the one seated upon it there was granted to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another; and a great sword was given him.
5 And when he opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say: “Come!” And I saw, and, look! a black horse; and the one seated upon it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice as if in the midst of the four living creatures say: “A quart of wheat for a de·nar´i·us, and three quarts of barley for a de·nar´i·us; and do not harm the olive oil and the wine.”
7 And when he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say: “Come!” 8 And I saw, and, look! a pale horse; and the one seated upon it had the name Death. And Ha´des was closely following him. And authority was given them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with a long sword and with food shortage and with deadly plague and by the wild beasts of the earth.
9 And when he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those slaughtered because of the word of God and because of the witness work that they used to have. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying: “Until when, Sovereign Lord holy and true, are you refraining from judging and avenging our blood upon those who dwell on the earth?” 11 And a white robe was given to each of them; and they were told to rest a little while longer, until the number was filled also of their fellow slaves and their brothers who were about to be killed as they also had been.
12 And I saw when he opened the sixth seal, and a great earthquake
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The Great Crowd
by seekchristonly inquestion where are the great crowd when paul sees them.
well they are in............. wait for it...............heaven and not on the earth as is taught by some counterfeit kingdoms.
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johnamos
Where in verse 9 are you reading that they are seen in heaven??? Also, in verse 14 the answer is given to where this great crowd came from and it says that they came out from the GT... where does the GT take place at???
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The Great Crowd
by seekchristonly inquestion where are the great crowd when paul sees them.
well they are in............. wait for it...............heaven and not on the earth as is taught by some counterfeit kingdoms.
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johnamos
What scripture are you referring to that speaks of PAUL seeing a great crowd in heaven???
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Atlanta Int Convention 2014:The Big Party. Does this look like WT believes Armageddon is coming "soon"?
by AndDontCallMeShirley inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.
.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.
instead of preaching and saving people??.
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johnamos
Pause it at 4:55 and look and read at all that you see there and remember it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POtRr2qXhuE
Watch the following starting at 11:10 to 12:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc0NmYIWTGs
Read the following:
[2-15-12 WT 14 In a selfish and nationalistic world, it is refreshing to find individuals who can and do look beyond national borders. Granted, overcoming prejudices can be difficult. The founder of the television network CNN, Ted Turner, comments about his work with a number of talented individuals from various nations: “Meeting with these people was an incredible experience. I came to see those from other countries not as ‘foreigners,’ but as fellow citizens of the planet. I began to view the word ‘foreign’ as pejorative and created a rule within CNN that the word could not be used either on air or in conversation around the office. Instead, the word ‘international’ was to be used.”
15 In lands around the globe, only Jehovah’s Witnesses have adopted God’s way of thinking as a group. By learning to see things as Jehovah does, they have been able mentally and emotionally to break down national barriers. Instead of treating members of differing national groups with distrust, suspicion, or even outright hatred, they have learned to cherish the variety of characteristics and abilities of these groups as something beautiful. Have you reflected on this accomplishment and how it has benefited you personally in dealing with others?]
Watch the following:
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What has the WTS EVER "predicted" that has actually come true?
by integ inyou'd think they could point to something right?
obviously we're the one true religion".. i can't fathom how anyone of any intelligence would be willing to join up with this org after doing even rudimentary research.. for years they have taught that it's wrong to seek advanced education or to plan for a "worldly" future by trusting in this system of things and then this past sunday the watchtower article rips on people for not planning for the future in regard to their elderly relatives.
maybe if they hadn't been teaching for 100 yr's that the end was "just around the corner" and telling us we'd better believe that fact...or else, we would have planned better for a future that you said without reservation would not even occur.. what mind blowing prediction can they point to that would convince someone "oh yeah..these guys have it right"...?.
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johnamos
Artwork (picture) in the 2-15-75 WT p.100 and the 10-1-78 WT p.10
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Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon
by Waiting4TheKingdom infive events to come and to watch for:.
1 world leaders say peace and security!
- they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.
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johnamos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtI_mVOXbQ
I know this is a bit long… (About 1 hour and 45 mins) but this is worth watching to the end! The two young guys make it hard to listen to at first but be patient it is very interesting.
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Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon
by Waiting4TheKingdom infive events to come and to watch for:.
1 world leaders say peace and security!
- they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.
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johnamos
Quote- “It's pretty obvious why; many (not just the WTS) had already labeled the UN as the "Wild Beast", and since it's clearly a Bad Guy (and destroys "Babylon the Great") in Revelation, it must be conspiring against the whole world in general and righteous Christians in particular (evidence or lack of it notwithstanding).”
Start at 0:45 and pay attention again starting at 1:45 when Ted Turner comes on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSoUCoEKlxw
Remember the WTS says that Ted is a ‘refreshing individual’ for his views, and of course his views are those of the UN.
Quote- “However, the only way it could accomplish that is if it actually became some kind of all-powerful and opressive secular world government, hence the support for NWO conspiracy theories.”
[And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished.]
[ 5 And a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies was given it, and authority to act forty-two months was given it. 6 And it opened its mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name and his residence, even those residing in heaven. 7 And there was granted it to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.]
Remember Walter said that in order for the UN to act in the capacity that it was meant to, the nations would need to give up some of their sovereignty and it will be a bitter pill to swallow. That is why they will create and carry out WW3 knowing that during that time of chaos (order from chaos… create the problem and offer the solution) people will go along with whatever.
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Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon
by Waiting4TheKingdom infive events to come and to watch for:.
1 world leaders say peace and security!
- they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.
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johnamos
Its funny that here I like your user name and profile pic because I like Leslie Nielsen and the airplane and naked gun movies, but yet your replies are ridiculous and yet I cannot stand PON’s profile pic and yet his reply was at least respectable. I guess it’s the ole don’t judge a book by its cover.
It's true what they say: Cops and women don't mix. It's like eating a spoonful of Drano; sure, it'll clean you out, but it'll leave you hollow inside.
What was it we had for dinner tonight?
Well, we had a choice of steak or fish.
Yes, yes, I remember, I had lasagna.
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Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon
by Waiting4TheKingdom infive events to come and to watch for:.
1 world leaders say peace and security!
- they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.
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johnamos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inu9vKXsrFA
Listen to the whole thing carefully, but pay close attention to what is said at 6:55 to 7:20. (And don’t just fast forward to that part because I put it down. It is important to hear all so that one will understand the mindset of those that support the U.N.)
And you state this as dating back to the 50’s…LOL! It dates back to the book of Revelation and even Daniel, and even Genesis. My whole point was to show even to an atheist, or anyone that does not believe in the bible, that regardless of that, they could see what has taken place in history and presently as in regards to the NWO, and they can witness it for themselves.
Also listen to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MADYzQstpsU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_zNFuVaqTI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-X3sJKtVJE
(Sadly that kid doing the interview has no clue with his thinking that the NWO will not come about.)
You may say, ‘well these are old clips and Walter is dead and George SR even has one foot in the grave’. But it has always been the intent to bring about the NWO with WW3.
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Ted Turner is known for his $1 billion gift to support the United Nations, which created the United Nations Foundation, a public charity to broaden support for the UN. Turner also serves as Chairman of the United Nations Foundation board of directors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Turner
For those that know about the WTS as a NGO with the UN, well they are still in bed with them. Referring to Ted as a ‘refreshing individual’ in regards to his views knowing full well that Ted’s views are the views of the UN.
[12-15-12 WT- In a selfish and nationalistic world, it is refreshing to find individuals who can and do look beyond national borders. Granted, overcoming prejudices can be difficult. The founder of the television network CNN, Ted Turner, comments about his work with a number of talented individuals from various nations: “Meeting with these people was an incredible experience. I came to see those from other countries not as ‘foreigners,’ but as fellow citizens of the planet. I began to view the word ‘foreign’ as pejorative and created a rule within CNN that the word could not be used either on air or in conversation around the office. Instead, the word ‘international’ was to be used.”]
[Tuesday, February 4
God is not partial.—Acts 10:34.
In a selfish and nationalistic world, it is refreshing to find individuals who can and do look beyond national borders. The founder of the television network CNN, Ted Turner, comments about his work with a number of talented individuals from various nations: “I came to see those from other countries not as ‘foreigners,’ but as fellow citizens of the planet.”]