Posts by johnamos

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

johnamos

You gave a reply back but you did not answer the questions.

Anyway, I know and you know that your answer would be that you would not want those 3 men on the island if those are the things they would be doing. If you were one of the 1,000 adults then you and the other 96 would agree that they must go and you would agree that you are justified in removing/killing them. It would not be an unloving thing to do but to the contrary it would be a loving thing for the sake of the 500 children and the 97 adults.

You can distort the picture of God and Armageddon to fit inline with what you think it is but the truth is ONLY evil ones are killed.

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

johnamos

First thing there would be no going back to the WTS for me...I am not and was never a JW.

What is your issue with just answering the questions?

Would you feel it is okay for them to be there to do those things or would you want them to be removed from the island?

If you would want them to be removed, would that be unjust/unloving?

Would it be unjust/unloving to shoot the one breaking into your home?

[Psalm 37: 9 For evil men will be done away with, But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth. 10 Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there. 11 But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.]

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

johnamos

LOL...such evasion! You say that you would want them removed and not killed but if I asked you the same question worded differently you would state that you would want them killed. You refuse to answer the questions clear and honest because you know what it will reveal.

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

johnamos

No I did not forget to mention anything you just failed to answer the questions....which were:

Would you feel it is okay for them to be there to do those things or would you want them to be removed from the island?

If you would want them to be removed, would that be unjust/unloving?

Would it be unjust/unloving to shoot the one breaking into your home?

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

johnamos

YES, you got those 6 points from reading the Bible, and Jehovah didn't hold back from giving that info did he? Why do you think that is?

And for the umpteenth time where do you get your ability to LOVE and have a sense of what is right or wrong, just or unjust?

Also, you say Jehovah caused millions or even billions of deaths and due to that you rest your case that Jehovah is not a God of LOVE. Well what do you say about when those people are resurrected and have the chance to live forever ...is that unloving of Jehovah?

If now at the present time you have had someone you LOVED that has died and you were/are hurt and sadden and missing them and Jehovah resurrected that person tonight while you are sleeping and they knocked on your door in the morning and you opened it and saw them would you be THANKFUL to Jehovah or would you say that your glad that person is back but as far as Jehovah he is still a unloving God...

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

johnamos

Smiddy, I am not asking you that question in a personal judgmental way...I am simply trying to point out that whatever your view of what LOVE is, you feel Jehovah doesn't possess it, so I want to know how you have come to know what LOVE is on your own.

You are judging Jehovah by actions that you read about that YOU feel he dealt with mankind unlovingly. Where do you get that sense to determine what is loving or unloving?

My point is that it is mindboggling for me to hear anyone think that they have a better understanding of what LOVE is and what it is not, then the ONE that created into mankind to begin with.

Fink,

If your home is being robbed and you shoot the robber, is that unjust/unloving?

If you lived on an island with 1,000 adults (men and women) and 500 children (boys and girls) and if only 3 men out of the 1000 adults were men that would rape, kill, and steal, etc.. would you feel it is okay for them to be there to do those things or would you want them to be removed from the island? If you would want them to be removed, would that be unjust/unloving?

Armageddon is loving and just. Those that will be killed will be those that are like the 3 men on the island and the one that robbed your home.

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

johnamos

hiding from challenges...LOL :)

I asked smiddy not you.... you have no answers and no reasoning....just anger and hate. Go deal with that before you attempt to talk about LOVE.

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

johnamos

And I told you I am looking to hear smiddy's reply... :)

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US Letter Read Sunday 4/26 at Meeting - No KH Use and No Field Service Indefinitely

by JWTom in

jw
friends

there was a letter read sunday at our meeting that mentioned some parts of us are starting to open back up.

however, regardless of things opening up that no kingdom halls should be used for any meetings of any kind.

also, no door-to-door ministry or any form of in-person ministry is allowed.

johnamos

link?

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

johnamos

Would you conclude that they are not God's of Love because of that? If so how is it that you come to that conclusion? Where to you get your understanding of what LOVE is and is not?